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Alexandra

I bet Frank....what a script, just a minor re-write and you can take it as 'red'.
Now about that Cheyne Machiavellian theory you mention on your site....you know that has to top the spins.

fd10801

Thanks, Alexandra...

Much heavy breathing going on at CondiPundit

I had hoped (dreamed?) that, at the RNC in 2004, Cheney was going to stand up and say, "Ladies and Gentlemen, my fellow Republicans, I cannot accept your nomination for Vice - President, due to failing health. I present to you my personal choice for a replacement, and ask your unanimous approval for, the next Vice President of the United States,the National Security Advisor, Ms. Condoleezza Rice! (followed by explosive applause, a 45 minute "spontaneous floor demonstration," unanimous approval,and a subsequent 40 state win by George Bush over John Kerry.)

A dream is a wish your heart makes ...

Alexandra

You know guys, I think all these discussions will become superfluous, until Fitzgerald decides whether he can go away with his tail between his legs or whether indeed he may have to throw in an odd indictment to save face. Then it may well come down to scape goats such as Tate and Abrams, Libby and Miller's respective lawyers, 'engaged in an obstruction of justice or witness-tampering'."

Specifically referring to what occurred between Tate and Abrams, an "attorney encouraging a witness to withhold information from a grand jury when the witness had no right to withhold is engaging in obstructive behavior."

Straws gentlemen, grasping at straws....

Darrell

I think Fitzgerald was more interested in Judith Miller's source for the pending FBI raid of an alleged Islamo-terrorist cell. Miller called them prior to the raid, of course. Wouldn't you? Strike that! Of course you wouldn't! Since she left her jail cell when Fitz agreed not to stray from the Plame matter, I would place my bet on that as well.

Could Fitzgerald be investigating a conspiracy by major reporters(from multiple companies) trying to unseat a sitting President? Since Plame and Wilson had outed themselves at dinner parties for "years" according to Andrea Mitchell at MSNBC, could they have set a plan in motion designed to trap Rove and others close to Bush? Trying to get them to mention a "covert" operative's name? Hope spring eternal!

Who at the Justice Dept. is looking into felony charges for Sens. Dick Durbin, Jay Rockefeller, and Jay Wyden for disclosing information that had learned about the US stealth satellite program in their oversight role. Of course, senators sign a secrecy agreement when they join the Senate Intelligence Committee(Senate Select Committee on Intelligence) with access to top secret information. When senators first were given access to such secret information, they promised that they would never compromise the security of the Nation. Actually, they were outraged that the question was ever asked! Anyway, I'd just like to know when the indictments will be handed out. This one seems like a slam dunk, eh? Just sitting here waiting.....I better read all the MSM stories on this while I wait....Hmm. None.

Kenny Pierce

Darrell,

But I think Fitzgerald is going to prosecute not on the basis of "outed a covert agent," but on the much broader basis of "revealed classified information."

Not that even that will necessarily have merit; but I don't think there's any way he'll be silly enough to go for the covert agent charge at this point. Instead, having been brought in to investigate a crime that wasn't one, he's out to find something else that WAS a crime. If I'm not mistaken that's how Ken Starr managed to get the indictments and convictions that he landed...in the course of proving that you didn't commit the crime with which you're originally charge, you inadvertently shed light on something else that you might be able to be nailed for, and the prosecutor goes for that.

The covert agent thing is dead in the water, though, I'll agree.

Darrell

I'll place my bet against indictments! It should be a sure bet, if the world hasn't gone absolutely crazy. Why? Well for starters, I'm not trapped in a perpetual time loop like the Press. The poor dears! They must revert to Day 1 of a story everyday! I remember that Valerie Plame was found to NOT be a covert agent for at least five years! I would think that would constitute exculpatory evidence, even in those TV courts. Didn't Aldrich Ames out her once? And the Swiss out her again after they asked for the pleasantries of a formal presentation of credentials, then promptly handed them over to the Cubans(I guess they got the envelopes with their cigar orders mixed up). I even called the CIA Headquarters in Langley and asked for Valerie Plame(Valerie Wilson) a couple of days after the story broke and was connected with her number(A secretary told me she wasn't available and asked if I cared to leave a message). I didn't. That whole process wouldn't have occured, I assure you, if Ms Plame was covert. At least I hope it wouldn't! I remember the days when we were discouraged from putting CIA bumper stickers on our luggage when traveling abroad. Perhaps this is a new tactic--CIA cover for covert agents. I will be the first one to volunteer to visit those "forbidden" military/industrial districts in China, photographing them with a high-res digital camera while wearing a windbreaker(how about a nice dark blue)with the CIA logo in 10-inch-high yellow letters on the front and back. Like those FBI windbreakers you see on TV. I'd like to see them prosecute me as a spy after that! Gone must be the days when the KGB "Baker"--a chap who liked to put live people in commercial bakery ovens, no matter how the question and answer session went--wandered this Earth!

The MSM template has been that members of the Bush Administration scurried about trying to find anyone in the Press to listen to them as they tried to discredit Wilson. Again I recall that the Newsweek chap said that he contacted Rove, lying by the way, about wanting to talk about "welfare reform." A topic he apparently forgot to bring up afterwards. And according to his own words, Rove said "wife." Now the law says that you have to give a name of a covert agent, and identify them as a covert agent---while gaining access to that information using your security clearance. Case closed. None of the elements were met.

No, this whole matter is just an opportunity for the Press to use Administraton names and the word "Indictment" in the same breath. Kind of like "Commander-in-Chief." Each week in their promos they get to say things like "New Administration. New Politics. New Hope." or "Lies. Corruption. Deceit. In the White House!"(this week's promo) Then you can have actors calling themselves "Republicans" saying nasty things and admitting all sorts of illegal, immoral, and unethical things, for a full hour---every week! Clever Lefties! It just depends on us being stupid!

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