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Mike Andreyakovich

The more I think of the Muslims, the more I think of Nine Inch Nails - the song "The Hand That Feeds" applies much better to them (including, I hasten to add, the cowed and silent moderates) than to its original, BDS-inspired target.

You're keeping in step
In the line
Got your chin held high and you feel just fine
Because you do
What you're told
But inside your heart it is black and it's hollow and it's cold

Just how deep do you believe?
Will you bite the hand that feeds?
Will you chew until it bleeds?
Can you get up off your knees?
Are you brave enough to see?
Do you want to change it?

What if this whole crusade's
A charade
And behind it all there's a price to be paid
For the blood
On which we dine
Justified in the name of the holy and the divine

Just how deep do you believe?
Will you bite the hand that feeds?
Will you chew until it bleeds?
Can you get up off your knees?
Are you brave enough to see?
Do you want to change it?

So naive
I keep holding on to what I want to believe
I can see
But I keep holding on and on and on and on

Will you bite the hand that feeds you?
Will you stay down on your knees? (8X)

Someone ought to edit together a video of "The Hand That Feeds," only with Muslims on jihad instead of Christians sending soldiers off to fight the GWOT. Trent Reznor would shit his pants.

RL

emircaner.com
erguncaner.com

eeinternational.org/dykfs/


2/3 of muslims who are born-again/redeemed into
the evidential, historic, and Biblical Christian
Faith, were deeply-religious and practicing
muslims before their conversion experience
(according to several recent surveys).


answering-islam.org


Dan Kauffman

As you have brought up the subject of Precedents?

Tobacco is SACRED
I have been following recent news with great interest and I feel that in the spirit of equal opportunity, I as a descendant of the Ani-Yun-Wi-Ya.
(Total of all real people) should point out that I have found the lack of respect and Honor accorded the Sacred Herb of my Ancestors, highly offensive.

Since it appears that in some quarters decisions have been made to avoid offending other religions even to the extent of discarding basic Liberties and Freedoms then my Religion too should be accorded the same respect.

Huan

stefan, nice analogy.

i suspect they won't deliver themselves to their potential.

gringoman

Above comment should have added:

BUY DANISH

gringoman

Sad? Ludicrous? Troubling? Or just ignominious, abject, pathetic and deeply revolting? 2500 years of Western civilization, culture, gods, goddesses, God, tragedy, plague, exploration, invention from jet flight to the Internet, creation from Shakespeare to Bach to the rule of law, discoveries from the swamps to the stars , where even the shape of the mosque was made possible by the stupendous Pantheon and the Roman dome ---for what? For the triumph of the wuss and the weasel?

from CARTOONS AND WEASEL WORLD at gringoman

Stefan

I don’t know if Europe is going to respond eventually to these attacks against them but I do think it is very possible that it may slowly turn to face this problem. Since the Great War, and especially after WWII, Europe has lost all faith in itself. It is like knowing someone who has all kinds of talent and promise but has been paralyzed by experiences of failure and humiliation and now refuses to try. Modern Europe has decided that war will always fail and they convinced themselves that they have found the magic bullet (hmmm) that will finally slay the God of War: “Dialogue”. They have attempted to “unify” Europe in the dream that there will be no more European War and have invested themselves into the UN and other attempts at international government. This all seemed (to them) like it was going to work because they were sheltered and kept safe by their dominant ally: The United States. Terrorism (among other things) has shattered their little dream of a world without warfare by slipping inside and using their own extreme political correctness to kick them in the teeth. The more they accommodate, the more accommodations are demanded. The more they allow their soil to be used to cultivate extremism the more they are targeted by the fruits of these violent communities. It is not like there are fundamentalist Muslim communities that wish to hold their adherents to a strict lifestyle ala the Amish, but rather this fundamentalism is violent, aggressive, ambitious, and rotten from root to branch. It is not that Islam is incompatible with a pluralistic society but it is a fact that a large number of Muslims are not interested in the slightest. Why plea-bargain when you think you can beat the rap, so-to speak. They think they have a good shot at bringing down the fat, aged, and decaying west so why bother cutting deals? Europeans are caricatured as being very arrogant and there is arguably truth to this. I hope that some of this arrogance (hopefully in the form of a little genuine pride) will finally not take anymore slaps in the face and begin to push back. Again, has anyone heard anything about the mood of the European populations in all this? I only hear from pundits, editors, and politicians. Any polls being taken? Any change in opinion these last few weeks?

dymphna

I like to laugh. Some of the Muslim cartoons are funny. I liked Catholic jokes/cartoons when I was a Catholic. And now that I'm an Episcopalian, the fun is simply endless. heh.

When my behavior causes a tantrum, it tends to make me either continue to do whatever it was, or to get away from the idjit who is going off over my behavior.

The pusillanimous Western "press" could've brought this to a stop a long time ago by printing a thousand cartoons. But no, they have to push the "sensitive Muslim street" meme. Fact is, they're scared.

I intend to keep publishing Islam cartoons until they are no longer interesting. Having just finished judging a pbuh cartoon contests, I can tell you that there are some which aren't very interesting. But there are some hilarious ones, too. Especially those which take ordinary objects, like gasoline cans, or others, which use Western ideas and fuse them onto Islam. For example, Moe of Moe, Curly, and Shemp...he's in a turban with his arms folded. Simple photoshop, but very amusing, even though I don't understand the caption (I think it's Danish).

Life is too short not to laugh. Of course, Mohammed thought laughter was dangerous. Open your mouth to laugh and you let the devil in...he's probably right. That certainly explains the Irish.

Jeff Durkin

To some degree, I can understand Europe's reluctance to face up to the Muslim problem. Given that (at least, in my opinion): we are engaged in a Huntingtonesque war of civilizations; that Europe has a large, hostile Muslim population; that Europe's proximately to the Muslim core makes it much easier for Jihadis to get to (once again, we should be thankful for the Atlantic); that Europe's immigration policies of the last 30 or so years were designed to let people in, but not assimilate them and, in fact, provided the Islamists with the tools needed to set up parallel cultures; and that the Europeans spent most of the last century doing their best to wipe each other out, their reticence about confronting the hostile populations within Europe in a fashion we would find acceptable are not unreasonable. Those who are counseling appeasement – at least those not overcome with a self-loathing of the West – probably have visions of a much more violent version of the Muslim riots in France last year…or even a full-fledged insurgency across the breadth of Europe.

The question to ask is not “is this appeasement wrong or a betrayal of the West”, but “is it leading to something?” To take Munich as an example, the popular image of the 1938 deal between Germany, France and England, was that the Western European states were so interested in peace that they were willing to buy it at any price. However, before completely condemning Chamberlain, one has to keep in mind that, prior to the Munich meeting, he had been told by the British military (in the midst of a rearmament program along with France) that they were incapable of facing Germany militarily at that time (which was almost certainly incorrect…not all intel failures happen to the Bush Administration J). So, when the PM went to Munich, he went thinking that he had no cards to play. Standing up to Hitler was not seen as a viable option. Both the British and the French were well aware of the threat Hitler and Germany posed, but thought they could do nothing about it until they were better prepared. Of course, other factors played in to their decision-making process (the French, in particular, were not very keen on sacrificing another generation of men on the battlefield), but the perception of incapacity must have weighed heavily upon the French and British.

The reason I bring this up is that it relates to the question I posed. If the current efforts are designed to keep the European Muslim population mostly placated, while the European states prepare for an inevitable conflict, than the policy makes sense. I would rather have the European core play the appeasement card for a while, if they are using that time to prepare for a more effective role in the Western-Islamic conflict. If, however, the policies of appeasement are being followed in order to avoid a fight – to buy peace at any price, rather than push back a conflict until they are ready to fight it – than the West has a serious problem. If the latter is the case, than Europe’s leaders have fundamentally misread the threat Islam poses and we may find ourselves having to “liberate” Europe…again. I am hopeful that they (enough of Europe’s leaders and population) are not this blind and are following the former path. Some of the policies put in place or proposed in the last few years by the UK, France, Germany and others (as well as a growing segment of Europeans who are wary of the Muslim population in their countries) give some reason for long-term optimism, even if, in the short-term, they appear to be set to become the Caliphate of Al-Franj.

In my humble opinion, of course.

RL

written like a misguided, misinformed, and true atheist.


ericmetaxas.com

dontwasteyourlife.com

greatcom.org/laws/english/flash/

leaderu.com/offices/schaefer/index.html

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ronled

Call it a male bonding thing. The behavior, to me, as an atheist, of religion is tied to sexuality and demands of women to submit. Just look at the National Organization of Women challenge to the Christian Promise Keepers in the US. The sensitivities of religious folks did not interfere with offering a critique.

Next time you hear someone say something about the numbers of muslims just cut that number in half, and always refer to it as the muslim men. Let the reader do their own math if they insist on including submissive enslaved women within the number of religious believers. References to men-only works fine too for Christians like the Promise Keepers and the Catholic men as well. Soon, the religious differences fall off and you are left only with a religious variant of some mens club.

Be blunt.

"Men's Rape Club, Why Go Islamic When Christian Will Do Just Fine?"
http://pdxnag.com/drupal/node/953

A male Christian might have to confront their own sexuality hangups were they forced to see just how similar their attitudes and beliefs are toward the role of women to that in the Muslim world. It is more similar than different.

Keep the perspective in perspective.

Darrell

It is apparent to me that the "Toon War" farce is just a show of force to the West, intended to give second thoughts to anyone planning an attack on Iran's nuclear weapons program. Notice how each day's news focuses on one other country with a large Muslim population, Indonesia and the Philippines being the latest. And if you can burn a few Christian Churches and kill a few Christians while you're at it, so much the better!

As usual, the Arab's 2000 year curse(ask the Buddhists)holds, and the plan is backfiring. They are awakening the world to the real and present danger of Islam and more and more people are starting to question the "Religion of Peace" propaganda put out by the Western MSM. So, carry on! If you can awaken the Europeans, you can work miracles! Just leave Papa Chavez in Venezuela alone! Sure, his principles are opposed to you and everything you stand for and the Left will surely gather up your religious leaders in the night when they are in power, never to be heard of again...but such is life! A deal is a deal, right?


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