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Mrfixitforyou

I am sure I am not the sharpest tack in the box but how many true allies do we have in the middle east? Few. And with all the access the UAE gives us, what would we do without it. What if, because of this refusal to complete a done deal, they withdraw our rights in their ports and their country? We would be in a mess then. I think this will come back and haunt us eventually.
Why not listen to our President at least some of the time. Making decisions today with today's information is the best we can do. We cannot go back and make or un-make decisions over again as yesterday's theories become today's truth or fiction.

James

Regarding myth #2, the scary thing is how underfunded and basically neglected the US Coast Guard is...

North by Northwest

Mario - I enjoyed reading your fresh analogies of the Religion of Peace, or Pax Islamica, which of course means: Peace, only after each and every soul on this globe has either been converted or killed.

Mario Badino

Islam is an ideology aimed at dominating the world. What makes it apparently different from Nazism or Communism is that Islam comes under the flag of religious belief.
Democracy stems from the quest for LIBERTY, it is a bottom-up process : freedom loving people devised Democracy as the best way for governing themselves. The idea of bringing democracy to "submission" minded peoples is doomed to the bitterest of failures, as adamantly demonstrated by the rise to power of the obscurantist forces of Hamas in Palestine, Shia clerks in Iraq and the coming to prominence of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Though sanctioned through publicly held polls, that is not democracy : it is tyranny under the travesty of democracy.
Submission minded peoples are bound to be governed either by fascism ( Baath ) or fundamentalism. They still belong to the old ages of SUBJUGATION and that is that's what Islam is all about : THE WILL TO SUBJUGATE, the worst scourge that keeps haunting the humanity since the very beginnings. Believing that Islam is just a religion like many others is a lethal misjudgment.
Human societies of all kinds thrived upon slavery per millennia and LIBERTY is the antithesis that the human spirit devised for escaping SUBJUGATION.
LIBERTY is very new in human history. It is enough to have a look at the world today – “only” 215 years after the First Amendment was established – to understand that LIBERTY is still a toddling and very frail newborn in human history.
For the “true believers” the world is divided into two sides: Dar El Islam ( the house of the believers) and Dar El Kufr ( the house of the infidels ). The FIRST duty of a believer is to conquer the land of the infidels and submit them.
Submission comes in three choices: 1st is conversion, 2nd is dhimmitude, 3rd is being decapitated.
Would the US have allowed a USSR owned company to run its ports? Well, what the US is doing now is by far worse.
However, those who believe that not LIBERTY but to be rich should be the main purpose in human life, won’t find themselves restrained under Islamic rule. There are no provisions in the Qur’an against being rich and wealth is indeed praised and recommended.
Islam is akin to HIV : it takes a very long time for the infected host to recognize the lethal enemy and too often when he does it is too late. There is something in HIV that misleads the immune system into trusting the newcomer as a family's member while in reality it is an alien.
Business is business. And what about US open investment policy? Goddamn those who dare to say that DPWorld's takeover of US ports’ management is not business as usual.
Never seen glittering Dubai’s streets? The big cars and limos, gold and jewels everywhere, the flavor of greenbacks all around, whole armies of obsequious servants, and all the brands of the world available to so-called brand-conscious people, well : isn't that what the most of us are dreaming of and, since we share the same dreams, who dares to say that they aren’t akin to us?
In the West unabashed LOVE FOR GOLD stands on top of everything, while LOVE FOR LIBERTY lags by far behind in the values’ ladder. That’s why we get so easily fooled by the virus of “submission”.

Liquid

A United Arab Emirates government-owned company is poised to take over port terminal operations in 21 American ports, far more than the six widely reported.

UAE terminal takeover extends to 21 ports

MarcH

Alexandra,

Your reporting on the UAE port deal has been, as usual, very complete and well done. I’m beginning to suspect that you are an attorney (no offense).

In analyzing this question it may be helpful to review two other matters which involved similar issues.

1. I’ve previously commented on various news/opinion blogs on the GAO report of Department of Homeland Security(DHS)/Customs and Border Protection failures in the CTPAT program. CTPAT was a process whereby DHS certified that certain importers had high counter-terrorism cargo security standards and could therefore receive expedited inspection at US ports for their cargos. A 2005 GAO report showed that, over a long period of time, DHS had failed to insure that these privileged importers really had the required high security standards.

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05466t.pdf (the GAO report)

http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0505/052605cdam2.htm

http://www.jinsa.org/articles/articles.html/function/view/categoryid/1701/documentid/3054/history/3,2360,655,1701,3054

2. I would also suggest that the Saudi “Visa Express” matter was analogous. As readers may recall, prior to 9/11 DoS gave Saudi nationals special and unprecedented ease of travel into the U.S. by issuing them visas with practically no scrutiny. It is alleged that DoS officials tried to hide and continue this practice after 9-11. This matter was detailed in Joel Mowbray’s articles and in his book, “Dangerous Diplomacy.”

MarcH

Another reason to distrust the UAE

Gd forgive me for referencing Huffington Post, but here goes. Michael Smerconish is a Philadelphia talk show host, attorney, former low level Bush I official, and author of "Flying Blind: How Political Correctness Continues to Compromise Airline Safety Post 9/11." All in all, he is a fairly reliable conservative.

Smerconisch has an interesting article in Huffington Post on references to UAE in the 9/11 Commission Report. The information in the report suggests that, pre-9/11, UAE royal family members were observed by CIA consorting with Bin Laudin at a camp in Afghanistan. UAE royals were then given a confidential warning by the U.S. about this activity. Very soon thereafter the camp was disassembled, thereby depriving the CIA of an opportunity to target Bin Laudin.

I don't think that Smerconish’s conclusion, that the UAE royal burned the CIA surveillance, is a slam dunk, but it does create at least a reasonable suspicion in my mind that that's the case and therefore these people should not be entrusted with a position at our ports.

http://www.mastalk.com/mastalk/readOfTheDay.jspx

Alexandra

Antimedia,

Gee, all those links, and I don't get one. Is that because I wasn't opposed to the deal?

What a nonsensical comment to make in view of the fact that I post California Conservative's 5 lengthy paragraphs in the main post defending the President's decision on this, and finish by saying:

"Read the complete post by California Conservative in the interest of allowing for an informed debate; there are some good arguments in support of the President."

As for all the links they are also divided in opinion, and missing yours was a simple oversight, and you know I am truly sorry for that. I have made amends immediately.

antimedia

Gee, all those links, and I don't get one. Is that because I wasn't opposed to the deal? As Kenny suggested, I took my time and learned a little about ports before panicking. Lo and behold, Dubai is not the first foreign country to own a freight-handling business that runs the port operations of major American ports. Both China (not exactly our friends) and Singapore (a large Muslim country with terrorists in it - shudder) own such companies and have run US ports for years.

Why did no one complain when the Chinese were running our western ports for all these years - long before the eeevvviiilll W took office? Could there be a little political opportunism at work here? (Not to mention a great deal of ignorance at work.)

If anything, this whole kerfluffle highlights how vapid and useless Washington is. Instead of passing laws with teeth in them and actually implementing real security measures at our ports, our wonderful elected politicians would rather wring their hands (in front of a camera, if at all possible) and worry about the company that is owned by Arabs, as if Arabs have cornered the market on corruption. Once the details are known, and cooler heads prevail, they'll move on to the next "crisis", where they can milk some more "face time" in front of the nation.

Alexandra

Don,

Ah the Saudis...I think it will be easier if I write a post about it, this comment will get too long.

Being "a good person off the blog", whatever that means, does not make me blind to the fact that nearly all the terrorist money and gold has been filtered through Dubai with His Majesty being well aware of it, and turning a blind eye. In fact Saudi is full of 'the turning away Sheikhs', it could almost become a dance if they were all not so fat that it makes the imagined analogy ludicrous.

But Don, I will put up a post today and give you my reasons. "A good person off the blog"...hahahahaha you make me laugh! You think I just 'play' the badie?

By the way real life is much more like this Ben Affleck movie than you may care to believe.

UPDATE: I have posted my response in my part II called Dubai Ports - The Bigger Picture

don surber

Sad commentary on the world that people will give up all their beliefs to fear.

Where to begin? Capitalism? Dubia's DP World wants to invest $7 billion in our ports

Osama bin Laden did not buy the World Trade Center

You are saying that all Muslims and all are no better than Osama bin Laden. That is sad

Truly, you are a good person in real life -- offblog. Apply some of that knowledge and wisdom to this situation. You know that life is not a Ben Affleck movie

The people of Dubai no doubt hate this war as much as we do. They are reaching out their hands to help us with this $7 billion investment

Do not slap tht hand

David Foster

Forgot the link:
http://www.floridashipper.com/news/article.asp?ltype=feature&sid=799
...really valuable reading for anyone who wants to understand this stuff beyond the headline level.

David Foster

Alexandra...also note this very interesting article in a shipping trade publication. I was particularly struck by this paragraph: "DP World’s agreement to buy (P&O) would make the Dubai-based company the world’s second-largest container terminal operator and put an Arab government-owned company in one of the most significant strategic positions in history, equal to Egyptian control of the Suez Canal or Panamanian control of the Panama Canal." I think the Suez/Panama analogy is probably a stretch; but still, when industry-knowledgeable people take this view, we should pay attention.

Also note the concerns the Indian government had in a similar situation vis-a-vis Chinese operation of the port of Mumbai.

Huan

we are not the same country as before 9/11
same for many others
pakistan has nearly donne a 180
many arab states are making the turn as well, including UAE and even Saudi Arabia
how much of a nation's pre 911 history should we hold against them?

weekenderman

The 9/11 Commission has absolutely nothing to do with this deal, RL (the so-called Roaring Lamb). You're mixing the tragedy of the terrorist attack of 2001 with a moderate Arab nation that has supported our anti-terrorist efforts. Please stop. Thank you.

RL

i think that everybody ought to at least read and think about
PAGE 138 of the 9/11 Commission's Report, and think about
the families of the 9/11 victims, before posting any further
uninformed and unhelpful comments on this thread.

Thank You.

i wonder if this deal has anything to do with the recent
survey of 40 of the most unpopular nations in the world,
in which America earned second place, immediately after the
islamoterrorist republic of Iran; and is nothing more than
a desperate and futile attempt to win some brownie-points in a
"popularity-contest" in the arab world and in the arab street ?

hmmm . . .

do you call this sort of a business-deal effective diplomacy ?

Huan
Myth #2: The U.S. is turning over security at crucial ports to an Arab company. No, security at U.S. ports is controlled by U.S. federal agencies led by the Coast Guard and the U.S. Customs and Border Control Agency, which are part of the Homeland Security department. Local jurisdictions also provide police and security personnel. Complaints about security at ports should be directed to the federal government.
I find this myth particularly interesting. Who exactly is propagating this idea, that the Bush administration has turned over port security/management to the UAE? Who could gain from this misinformation?

I worry that the Dems could be exploiting this myth. They are viewed as weak on security and the President's strongest poll numbers are on security. What better opportunity to weaken Bush and make themselves to better on security. Just a thought.

David Foster

Alexandra...wow! I am impressed with your knowledge.

Do you know right off what % of the total capacity at these 6 ports is represented by P&O?

Also, can you explain the flow of materials from the time the container is unloaded from the ship and the time it leaves the port on a truck or railcar? This would be helpful in understanding the true level of the security risk. Ditto, the process and allocation of responsibilities for reviewing the documentation (usually now electronic) which describes the shipment contents?

The Dread Pundit Bluto

Hi, thanks for the link to The Jawa Report, but you should know that I'm a co-blogger there. Rusty Shackleford, the site owner, disagrees with me on this issue and has posted his own take here.

Alexandra

David,

To bid competitively, there must be more than one eligible firm

Yes there are many at each port who continuously bid for handling contracts--and once awarded, they then hire the unionized longshoremen to load and unload the cargo from the vessels.

"The firm bidding competitively" is a contradiction in terms.

It actually isn't. The British company P&O Ports is currently only one of many companies who are leasing terminals in the said 6 American ports; the ports are and remain U.S.-owned. To lease a terminal at a U.S. port means running some business operations there -- contracting with shipping lines, loading and unloading cargo and hiring local, unionized labor. In New Orleans, for example, P&O Ports is just one of eight companies that lease and operate terminals. Dubai Ports World is not buying the ports, but one of the licensees, P&O Ports.

Michael Stickings

How nice to see the left and the right, liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, coming together in opposition to a thoroughly stupid move by this White House.

David Foster

"UAE's Dubai Ports World will be the firm bidding competitively for contracts to handle cargo coming off or loading on to ships"..what in the world does this even *mean*? To bid competitively, there must be more than one eligible firm. "The firm bidding competitively" is a contradiction in terms.

Kenny Pierce

My own take is that people are reacting too hastily. I'm not comfortable with the deal, but I don't rule out the possibility that I could be made comfortable. However, if this is a good idea, then the White House needs to fire its communications people and hire somebody competent, because the P.R. has been handled with complete incompetence. I'm certainly not convinced it's a good idea; I'm still undecided pending more information.

The willingness to leap to the assumption that somebody else's motives are vile, is usually a willingness to make a fool of yourself even in your own circle of friends whom you actually know personally. Understanding other people's motives is one of the things at which the human race is most disastrously incompetent; and when a person starts telling you the motivations of somebody he himself does not like, you can pretty safely proceed on the assumption that he's wrong -- unless the accused freely agrees that his motivations are in fact exactly as ascribed. I wish I personally were better at resisting the temptation.

Liquid

Thanks Alexandra, nobody has explained that to me before and that helped me to see the bigger picture on how it's all done.

RL

A very comprehensive and solid posting Alexandra.
(something that many of us have become used to consistently
expecting from you)

The moral compromises that men, even good and upright men
of faith and integrity such as W, are willing to make for
greed/profiteering never ceases to dissapoint me.
Follow the money trail.


Two interesting, excellent, & highly-reccomended columns at,

centerforsecuritypolicy.org


They are titled,

"Company Policy: This Port Deal Won't Happen"

and

"A Harriet Miers Moment"


globalsecurity.org


Alexandra

Liquid,

Many ports throughout the world are owned by UAE-based companies and ALL US ports are owned by foreign corporations.


I do however believe that the difference is that this is the only foreign STATE owned company that would be controlling six ports, in the US.

Having said all that, China's biggest state-owned shipper runs major ports in the United States

The shipping business, they said, went global more than a decade ago and across the United States, foreign-based companies already control more than 30 percent of the port terminals.

That inventory includes APL Limited, which is controlled by the government of Singapore, and which operates terminals in Los Angeles, Oakland, Seattle, and Dutch Harbor, Alaska. Globally, 24 of the top 25 ship terminal operators are foreign-based, meaning most of the containers sent to the United States leave terminals around the world that are operated by foreign government or foreign-based companies.

Singapore, of course, is also a country with a large and radicalized Moslem population that is infiltrated -- inundated is the better word -- by international terrorist organizations like al-Qaeda and their affilliate, Jemaah Islamiah; yet no one is up in arms about APL operating American ports.

And now of course, whilst we are looking at a done deal, I would like to believe that the President will be forced to rescind on this agreement, although the chances of that actually happening, let's face it, is very slim.

Joseph Marshall

There is absolutely nothing at all inconsistent about this Dubai port deal. From the Battle of Tora Bora forward, the War On Terror has been a part-time job at the White House, pursued if and only if it does not interfere with other, more pressing, agendas of political power and corporate influence.

The most dangerous possible terrorist target–in terms of lives that could be lost in America–is any one of our chemical plants close to a major city, as most of them are. A simple truck bomb, like McVeigh’s in Oklahoma City, could kill thousands if detonated at a plant making, say, anhydrous ammonia.

This has been brought up over and over in Congress, news programs of all sorts have repeatedly demonstrated that reporters can simply drive in the front gate of most plants without even being challenged, and there would be no reason why the White House couldn’t take up the bully pulpit and get this fixed. Have you heard a peep out of them about it? You can ask the Chemical Maunfacturer’s lobby why.

The President has defiantly told us that he will order, if he has to, the screening of every phone call and e-mail in America, to identify people using words like “bomb” and “terror”. So the NSA goes dilligently deviling after everybody who tells someone else, “Dat’s da Bomb!”

But you will never hear a peep out of the White House about the one surveilance measure that would destroy virtually every avenue that funded terrorist cells in this country but gold smuggling and halwala banking: make every electronic fund transaction completely transparent to Government scrutiny.

This has also been proposed since the very first days after 9/11, because the principle is obvious: terrorism costs money. Lots of it. Stop the money and you stop it. Even Bill Clinton suggested this long before 9/11. But it will never happen. Guess why, and guess who doesn’t want it to happen. Besides the terrorists, of course.

Way back when, Charles Schumer made a very intelligent proposal to increase security in the Trucking Industry nationwide. And even Michelle Malkin supported it. Heard much about it lately? And did you hear anything at all about it from the White House?

It’s almost embarrasing to mention, but we still have the longest virtually unguarded borders in the world. They have remained so now for about four and one half years, despite repeated calls to fix this from those in the President’s own party who think fighting terror should be a full-time job.

Further, how much have we heard from the White House about the scathing, and bi-partisan, Congressional criticism of the Department of Homeland Security’s response to Katrina? Are we really ready to cope with someone blowing up one of those completely naked chemical plants?

I don’t think so.

Finally, it is noteworthy that the President has openly threatened to use the veto power for the first time ever in his Presidency. He very badly wants this to happen. I'm as curious as anyone else about the details of why.

But I think I can guess the broad, overall, principle involved: money will go somewhere, to someone who badly wants it, in exchange for power and influence within the United States Government.

Liquid

I don't think you are paranoid...

It's absolutely NUTS to go through with this deal. NO 'country' should be in charge of our ports but the USA!

Alexandra, are there any other countries controlling any of our other ports? Isn't it just companies??? I am confused on this one, as someone told me that other companies are doing the job but that NO country has actual control. But maybe you can straighten me out on this.

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