.....and the West Will Be Full of Remorse When It's Too Late".
Really? And what happened when you woke up?
These were the words of the Hamas leader Khaled Mash'al at the Al-Murabit Mosque in Damascus. The address was delivered following the Friday sermon at the mosque, and was aired on Al-Jazeera TV. Video here.
"We say to this West, which does not act reasonably, and does not learn its lessons: By Allah, you will be defeated. You will be defeated in Palestine, and your defeat there has already begun. True, it is Israel that is being defeated there, but when Israel is defeated, its path is defeated, those who call to support it are defeated, and the cowards who hide behind it and support it are defeated. Israel will be defeated, and so will whoever supported or supports it.
"America will be defeated in Iraq. Wherever the [Islamic] nation is targeted, its enemies will be defeated, Allah willing. The nation of Muhammad is gaining victory in Palestine. The nation of Muhammad is gaining victory in Iraq, and it will be victorious in all Arab and Muslim lands. 'Their multitudes will be defeated and turn their backs [and flee].' These fools will be defeated, the wheel of time will turn, and times of victory and glory will be upon our nation, and the West will be full of remorse, when it is too late.
"They think that history has ended with them. They do not know that the law of Allah cannot be changed or replaced. 'You shall not find a substitute for the law of Allah. You shall not find any change to the law of Allah.' Today, the Arab and Islamic nation is rising and awakening, and it will reach its peak, Allah willing. It will be victorious. It will link the present to the past. It will open up the horizons of the future. It will regain the leadership of the world. Allah willing, the day is not far off.
"Don't you see that every act of deceit they contrive is being turned against them by Allah? Don't you see that they make every effort to defeat us militarily, but fail to do so? Israel and the occupation forces in Iraq are supplied with the entire Western military arsenal, yet they fail and are defeated.
"Don't you see that they believe they are capable of using democracy to deceive the people, but then democracy is turned against them? Don't you see that they are spending their money in efforts to block the way of Allah, to thwart Hamas, to defeat it, and to help those whom they want, but that [this plot] is turned against them? They are not acting reasonably.
"They do not understand the Arab or Muslim mentality, which rejects the foreigner. Our Arab forefathers, before the advent of Islam, rejected the aggressors and the foreigners.
[...]
"I bring good tidings to our beloved Prophet Muhammad: Allah's promise and the Prophet's prophecy of our victory in Palestine over the Jews and over the oppressive Zionists has begun to come true.""I Say to Europe: Hurry Up and Apologize"
Mash'al: "I say to the [European countries]: Hurry up and apologize to our nation, because if you do not, you will regret it. This is because our nation is progressing and is victorious. Do not leave a black mark in the collective memory of the nation, because our nation will not forgive you.
"Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is
not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the
world, Allah willing. Apologize today, before remorse will do you no
good. Our nation is moving forwards, and it is in your interest to
respect a victorious nation.
[...]
"Our nation will be
victorious. When it reaches the leadership of the world, and controls
its own decisions, then it will prevent this overt interference [in our
affairs], and its pillaging of natural resources, and will prevent
these recurring offenses against our land, against our nation, and
against our holy places - then you will regret it.
"The Western countries must stop the fools. Are these reasonable people? They allow offenses against Allah and the prophets. They are offending not only Muhammad, but all the prophets. But when an historian among them talks about the Holocaust, it is the sin of all sins. If anybody criticizes the Jews, this constitutes anti-Semitism. By law, they hold their own people accountable [for that]. The West, which waved the slogans of liberty after the French Revolution, three centuries ago, does not respect its own principles or slogans today. It violates them."
"You Have No Way of Overcoming Us"
Mash'al: "This victory, which was clearly evident in the elections, conveys a message to Israel, to America, and to all the oppressors around the world: You have no way of overcoming us. If you want war, we are ready. If you want democracy, we are ready. Whatever you want - we are ready. You will not defeat us. The time of defeat is over. Defeat within six days, defeat within hours, the defeat of armies - all this is over.
"Today, you are fighting the army of Allah. You are fighting against peoples for whom death for the sake of Allah, and for the sake of honor and glory, is preferable to life. You are fighting a nation that does not tire, even after 1,000 years of fighting. Today, you are facing peoples filled with faith, with the love of Allah, with the love of Allah's Prophet, with bravery, glory, and pride - a nation that knows its way, a nation that knows what it is, a nation that respects itself. How can you possibly defeat us?
"There is a chasm between you and our defeat. You will be the ones to be defeated, Allah willing. The time of defeat is gone, and the day of victory has come, Allah willing. Wherever you turn, you will fail."
Crowd: "Death to Israel. Death to Israel. Death to America."
"Before Israel Dies, it Must Be Humiliated and Degraded"
Mash'al: "Before Israel dies, it must be humiliated and degraded. Allah willing, before they die, they will experience humiliation and degradation every day. America will be of no avail to them. Their generals will be of no avail to them. The last of their generals has been forgotten. Allah has made him disappear. He's over. Gone is that Sharon behind whose back they would hide and find shelter, and with whom they would feel relatively secure. Today they have frail leaders, who don't even know where our Lord placed them.
"Allah willing, we will make them lose their eyesight, we will make them lose their brains.
[...]
"Their
weapons will be of no avail to them. Their nuclear weapons will be of
no use to them. They thought that they had hegemony over the region
with their nuclear weapons, but suddenly Pakistan popped up with
Islamic nuclear weapons, and they are afraid of Iran and several Arab
countries have some chemical weapons.
"Israel has begun to sense that its superiority has come to an end. Its army, which has superior conventional weapons - the air force, the armored corps, and the missiles - there are no longer wars in which these are used.
"The Arabs have said: We don't want [conventional] wars, thank you
very much. Leave the war to the peoples. Today, the Israeli weapons are
of no use against the peoples. We have imposed a new equation in the
war. In this equation, our tools are stronger. That is why we will
defeat them, Allah willing.
[...]
"If you fight them, they will
turn their backs on you, and will not be victorious." But the problem
is that we need to fight them first. If we sleep at home, how are we to
beat them?! 'If you fight them...' - that is a divine promise... 'If' -
It is conditional: 'If you fight them, they will turn their backs on
you and will not be victorious.' And indeed, when we began to fight,
and we armed ourselves with a will to fight, we defeated them.
[...]
"That
is why Allah akbar [Allah is greater]. We say that every day - Allah
akbar. Yes, Allah is greater than America. Allah is greater than the
oppressors. Allah is greater than the superpowers. Allah is greater
than the tyranny of the oppressing world, and Allah is greater than
Israel. Since Allah is greater, and He supports us, we will be
victorious."
"I Know That All Arab Leaders... Want Palestine to Be Liberated"
Mash'al:"By Allah, I know that all Arab leaders - and I have met
many of them - deep inside want the resistance in Palestine to be
victorious, and want Palestine to be liberated. Perhaps the need for
flattery and for diplomacy, and the American hegemony, force other
things on them, but in their hearts they are happy when we are
victorious.
[...]
"If, prior to the Hamas victory, there were
several military wings, each with a few hundred or a few thousand
fighters, under the rule of Hamas - if you continue to besiege us, to
starve our people, to ignore our rights, and if you continue your
occupation, your aggression, and your assassinations - we, the Hamas,
will declare a general call to arms. We will place the entire
Palestinian people at the disposal of the resistance and its weapons."
Crowd: "Allah akbar, Allah be praised. Allah akbar, Allah be praised. Allah akbar, Allah be praised. Allah akbar, Allah be praised. Allah akbar, Allah be praised. Allah akbar, Allah be praised."
Mash'al: "Be careful not to drive our people into a corner - Occupation, aggression, assassinations, 9,000 male and female prisoners, preventing aid, imposing a siege, causing starvation - and on top of all this, you don't want to recognize democracy and its results."
"Hamas has a Vision∑ Hamas Can Manage the Political Battle, Just Like it Managed the Military Battle"
Mash'al: "The German [Chancellor Angela] Merkel pops up and says: Democracy and success in the elections are not sufficient for Hamas to gain legitimacy. To hell with you all. How are we supposed to gain legitimacy? When you said we had the legitimacy of resistance, you called it terrorism. Now, we say we have the legitimacy of democracy, but you deny it. In that case, you yourself are not legitimate, because you emerged through democracy. This is the logic of a frail and defeatist person.
"Brothers and sister, there is confusion in the Western world, and in the American administration. Allah has come to them from where they did not expect him. That is the grace of Allah. That is why we do not fear them. We do not fear their threats.
"Today they give us an ultimatum: Recognize Israel. Wonderful! The
murderer is not required by anyone to recognize the rights of his
victim, but the victim is required to recognize the rights of his
murderer, and to sing his praises.
[...]
"Hamas has a vision.
Hamas has a plan. Hamas can manage the political battle, just like it
managed the military battle, but in a different language, with
different tools, and recognizing Israel is not one of them. Nor is
giving up the rights, giving up the right to resistance, and nor is
giving up the weapons of the resistance.
"Nevertheless, we want to deal with politics, but there is a difference between the politics of the weak and defeatists, which we will constantly repeat - the kind of politics that does not impress the enemy and so it does nothing - because, like in the marketplace, products praised too much become cheap. If we continue to praise our products, constantly saying: 'We love peace,' 'We have given up the option of war,' 'Peace is our strategic option,' 'For God's sake, Israel, give us a few scraps of land' - By Allah, we will be degraded in the eyes of our enemies."
"We Will Conduct our Politics in the Language of Victory"
Mash'al: "We will conduct our politics in the language of victory.
We will conduct our policy in a confident language. We will conduct our
politics in the language of those who are steadfast and sure of
themselves. Besides, by Allah, after the people has elected us, and has
bestowed upon us all this power, we will disrespect its rights?
[...]
"The
people has given us a deposit, and has empowered us to liberate its
land, to restore Jerusalem and its holy places. It has empowered us to
release 9,000 male and female prisoners. It has empowered us to stop
the aggression, to liberate the land, and to restore its rights. The
people has empowered us to bring back 5.5 million Palestinian refugees
and displaced people to their homeland. After all this, Hamas - in
order to please America and the European Union, and in order for the
pressure on us to stop, and in order for their highnesses to allow us
to establish a government... We are not trying to please them."
"It is in Your Interests to Change Your Relations and Policies Regarding the Arab and Islamic Nation and the Palestinian Cause"
Mash'al: "I say to America, Europe, and the West: It is in your interests to change your relations and policies regarding the Arab and Islamic nation and the Palestinian cause. Because we are winning, it is in your interests to deal with the victors, not the losers.
"Israel will be defeated and will be of no use to you. The Arabs will be victorious. The Muslims will be victorious. Palestine will be victorious. Change your policy soon, if you want to protect your interests, and maintain healthy relations with the East."
Well at least one lunatic has been put away for seven years in Britain:
The Muslim cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri has been jailed for seven years after being found guilty of soliciting murder and inciting racial hatred during sermons to his followers.
A jury at the Old Bailey returned unanimous guilty verdicts on 11 of the 15 charges against the 47-year-old preacher who controlled the high-profile Finsbury Park mosque in north London - described by police last night as a " honey pot" for extremists.
Police risked offending delicate religious sensitivities by raiding the Finsbury Park mosque, but their actions were justified by the mini-arsenal of weapons, terrorist paraphernalia and forged passports they found inside.
Operation Mermant, which began in the early hours of January 20 2003, involved scores of officers in body armour using battering rams to enter the building.
Full details of what they discovered during three days of searches can only be revealed today following the conclusion of Abu Hamza’s trial on race hate charges.
The stash of equipment included chemical warfare protection suits, or NBC (nuclear, biological and chemical) suits, as they are technically known.
They were found together with three blank-firing pistols, a stun gun and CS spray.
Officers also found a gas mask, handcuffs, hunting knives and a walkie talkie.
Detectives believe the equipment was being used in terror training camps located somewhere within the UK.
It is not clear exactly where these were, but speculation in the past has centred around remote parts of Wales, in particular the Brecon Beacons, and national parks such as those in the Highlands, Yorkshire Dales or Lake District.
“Our assessment was that this was material that had been used in training camps, probably here in the UK,” a senior police source said.
If Abu
Hamza is ever released from prison in Britain, he will still face
extradition to the United States on a series of terror charges carrying
a potential punishment of up to 100 years in jail. In May 2004, US
Attorney General John Ashcroft unveiled details of an 11-count
indictment against Hamza.
Siggy has another not to be missed post
and points us to Der Spigel interview with Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the Dutch
politician forced to go into hiding after the murder of filmmaker Theo
van Gogh, who responds to the Danish cartoon scandal, arguing that if
Europe doesn't stand up to extremists, a culture of self-censorship of
criticism of Islam that pervades in Holland will spread in Europe: 'Everyone is afraid to criticize Islam':
The handwriting is on the wall- and has been for a while. Read the Der Spiegel interview [above]- and mourn the loss of what has been stolen from us, our freedoms, from under our noses, for no other reason than we allowed it. We are leaving our children a world with far fewer freedoms than we have known, because we, as a nation, society and culture, did not have what it takes to defend the very freedoms we cherish.
There are still choices that can be made- the very choices that faced those in occupied France, Poland and elsewhere in Europe. Then, as now there will be those will choose to do nothing and there will be others that will choose to act to defend freedom. As Europe and the west are learning, there are far reaching consequences to inaction.
WSJ reports on how 'Muslim Clerics Stirred Arab World Against Denmark', just in case any of you thought that this Cartoon War has only the extremists scrambling for theirdirty pictures of the infidels:
Keen to "globalize" the crisis to pressure the Danish government, Mr. Abu-Laban and his colleagues decided to send delegations to the Middle East. They prepared a dossier to distribute during the travels. The document, which exceeded 30 pages, featured copies of the published cartoons and Arabic media reports about the controversy. It also contained a group of highly offensive pictures that had never been published by the newspaper, including a photograph of a man dressed as a pig, with the caption: "this is the real picture of Muhammad."
Strange, I thought we, the infidels were pigs and monkeys. It just shows you what the Muslim world produces as cartoons that they attempt to attribute to the West, is always far worse than we ever think of conjuring up ourselves.
Meanwhile back at the ranch:
The editorial staff of the alternative weekly New York Press walked out today, en masse, after the paper's publishers backed down from printing the Danish cartoons that have become the center of a global free-speech fight.
Editor-in-Chief Harry Siegel emails, on behalf of the editorial staff:
New York Press, like so many other publications, has suborned its own professed principles. For all the talk of freedom of speech, only the New York Sun locally and two other papers nationally have mustered the minimal courage needed to print simple and not especially offensive editorial cartoons that have been used as a pretext for great and greatly menacing violence directed against journalists, cartoonists, humanitarian aid workers, diplomats and others who represent the basic values and obligations of Western civilization.
Having been ordered at the 11th hour to pull the now-infamous Danish cartoons from an issue dedicated to them, the editorial group -- consisting of myself, managing editor Tim Marchman, arts editor Jonathan Leaf and one-man city hall bureau Azi Paybarah, chose instead to resign our positions.
Hugh Hewitt had Michael Medved, Dennis Prager, and Joe Carter on his show last night, talking about the Cartoon Wars. Transcript and audio are here. Thank you to Glenn @ Instapundit.
Michelle Malkin appears on Fox last night and tries to get the Muhammad cartoons aired.
Daniel Pipes:
The key issue at stake in the battle over the twelve Danish cartoons of the Muslim prophet Muhammad is this: Will the West stand up for its customs and mores, including freedom of speech, or will Muslims impose their way of life on the West? Ultimately, there is no compromise: Westerners will either retain their civilization, including the right to insult and blaspheme, or not.
More specifically, will Westerners accede to a double standard by which Muslims are free to insult Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, and Buddhism, while Muhammad, Islam, and Muslims enjoy immunity from insults? Muslims routinely publish cartoons far more offensive than the Danish ones . Are they entitled to dish it out while being insulated from similar indignities?
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Is Western Liberalism Modifying It's Core Beliefs
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The problem may be that courage hasn't had a good work out for quite some time in our free society. Poor courage has gone soft and lost it's strength and in some cases even become terribly atrophied. In the case of the MSM, I'm afraid that courage lies comatose. What a tragedy !!! The free-press betrays freedom itself ! An institution with the potential to protect and defend liberty , to unite people for a great cause, cowers and whimpers and refuses to demonstrate principled strength. Ah , where is the trumpet call that all free men listen for? The call to purpose? The call to exercise courage? It is drowned out by the cacophony of political competition, yes. But even more sadly than that, it is wasted. Freedom of speech : a precious and rare jewel to mankind. Available NOW at this moment in history, not always before and not necessarily forever after, but NOW !! And those with the power dare not. They collect their pretty darned good pay checks and have dinner with their colleagues. Their work affords them a certain amount of prestiege. How lovely. I wonder if ever, while the ice clinks around in their cocktail glasses, and the waiter asks them if they'd like to see the dessert menu, I wonder if ever they stop and think of what an incredible priviledge they squander and the price that all of mankind will probably pay for their ingratitude.
Posted by: jess1dering | Wednesday, March 01, 2006 at 03:32 AM
Sweden has caved. The Swedish interior police is now closing Swedish websites that publish Mohammed cartoons. See here:
http://www.spectator.se/stambord/?p=1100
Now that the Swedish police works as islamic thought control, I suggest we all report all unislamic goings on them. Let us keep them busy! The Swedish interior police can be contacted here:
sakerhetspolisen@sakerhetspolisen.se
Posted by: Derukugi | Friday, February 10, 2006 at 09:00 AM
"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock."
Will Rogers
US humorist & showman (1879 - 1935)
There are a lot of factors that the general public (and the Congress) are not aware of and can not take into consideration in this long war.
Everyone is saying that Iran is stalling for time and that the general Muslim world community is becoming more encouraged by the lackluster, PC response of Bush and Co. Well, they are stalling for time as well. There are many reasons that the U.S. needs some additional time.
Many we can imagine, most that we know nothing about.
Also, remember its easy to be brave for yourself, but being brave when it endangers your countrymen is not so very easy.
Papa Ray
West Texas
USA
Posted by: Papa Ray | Thursday, February 09, 2006 at 04:39 PM
Alexandra,
That last comment is the single most thought-provoking and profound thing you've ever posted at ATB...at least, since your original tribute to your father (which is the point from which I've read all of your posts and all of the comments).
Posted by: Kenny Pierce | Thursday, February 09, 2006 at 01:25 PM
Fausta,
My father used to say that you can never blame others for their cowardice. Everyone has different considerations and aspects to worry about. Some worry about their jobs, some their very lives, some their sponsors. One can only look to oneself and stand upright for what you believe in.
My father was betrayed many times by close friends, in a totalitarian regime, but he always forgave them. He said that they had considerations of their livelihood, which he did not have to worry about. They had considerations for their very lives, which my father had given to the cause of freedom long ago. They had considerations of their families' wellbeing, which my father did not have (when he married my mother he made his position clear, and she understood that, when I came along I simply was not asked. Heh.)
He forgave them, not because they know not what they do, but because they have the normal human weaknesses and survival instincts which my father gave up for the cause of freedom.
And again, he always said to me "Look to yourself, not to others. Don't ever rely on others to fight for YOUR freedom. They never will. They will always fight for their own version of it, which is relevant to their own little world. Very few people in history have truly fought for the good of mankind."
Posted by: Alexandra | Thursday, February 09, 2006 at 01:05 AM
Fox? Hesitates to air Mohammed cartoons? You mean the Murdoch outfit of which the Wahabbis now have a nice oily piece? But that wouldn't affect anything. Would it? Western enterprise is still free. Isn't it?
Posted by: gringoman | Wednesday, February 08, 2006 at 10:46 PM
Michelle Malkin appears on Fox last night and tries to get the Muhammad cartoons aired.
Hitchens, too:
On Saturday, I appeared on CNN, which was so terrified of reprisal that it "pixilated" the very cartoons that its viewers needed to see.
A blogger, a writer, a leftist French newspaper and the staff of the NYPress have more guts than all of CNN.
Posted by: Fausta | Wednesday, February 08, 2006 at 09:27 PM
Isn't it odd that so many Muslims are getting fired up over this supposed "mockery" of their religion when Christ was physically mocked, ridiculed, tortured, and put to death by the same ignorance which now fuels their anti-free-speech riots.
I know not all Muslims are like this, but the ones that are, aren't any better than scrounging animals convinced they've found God in something that appears shiny but which is actually only reflecting the light of the sun.
When will both sides begin looking to the source of the light instead of the finger pointing to it?
Posted by: Joshua Minton | Wednesday, February 08, 2006 at 01:53 PM
Does one have to be a Nietzsche to recognize the fiercest will to power?
Posted by: dan cameron rodill | Wednesday, February 08, 2006 at 12:09 PM