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Dan Collins

Wonder what PETA would have to say about St. Michael's behavior. And aren't dragons endangered? Dreadful.

epaminondas

My point is that while arab rejectionism is the output of the idea of the waqf, there is nothing to talk about between jews and arabs (who happen to be in the wet bank and gaza). There is no peace possible.

Is Hamas legitimate? Absolutely. WHich means, as I have said sicne the 2002 poll which showed 58% palestinians wanted Israel to die even if it meant there would NEVER be a palestinian state, that it isthe Palestinians THEMSELVES who wish no Israel and are prepared to act in that manner, and are RESPONSIBLE for their choice.

I always thought the palestinians the most poorly led people on earth in the 20th century. But if you are familiar at all with what is taught in palestinian schools, broadcast on palestinian KIDS tv (let alone adult), glorified every day, and taught via religious authority then what is happening should not be a surprise.

To HAMAS Israel is a muslim waqf. No secular suthority can alter this eternal status. No negotiation can change that. The people of a palestine to be have cloakes themselves in that mantle. Therefore the is NOTHING to discuss at this time.

So long as jews are the 'sons of apes and pigs' as the Hadith says, and the Stone and the Tree forms the cornerstone of future desires, and religious belief with regard not just to Israel but jews, there is nothing to discuss becuase the arabs cannot alter what they have been taught god has declared.

When can something different be taught?
When the Stone and the Tree is regarded by arabs as racist hate speech and incitement to murder.
It's that simple.

North by Northwest

Epaminondas, oh most noble and able of all the Hellenes;-)

You've got the heading wrong, me thinks. No talk of hope in your context anywhere in A's post. Plenty of talk about Hamas' charter and intentions, so not sure why you point out as if unmentioned above? No talk of legitimacy of Hamas either, so, again not sure why mention "Hamas was voted in freely"?

"When hate and racism is no longer taught in the schools...", duh!!! And that is, umh, in response to exactly what in A's post?!?

I am scratching my head here...especially when reading "That's all there is to it." Oh really. That's all, is it? Mind telling us your equally 'easy' way to get us there or how many generations we are away from the one where no more hate is taught?

Joking and early morning sarcasm aside, I particularly loved Alexandra's title, for it perfectly summarizes the total disconnect of realities: The West's at best gullible and at worst anti-Semitic and covertly malevolent infatuation with Palestinian's propaganda of the oppressed and illusions of their quest-for-peace; Hamas' unequivocal confirmation of their genocidal intentions--I mean where are we coming to, a nation is defending its borders against those who seek its destruction, preposterous, quite preposterous...

Mike Andreyakovich

Filou: That proposition sounds more pessimistic every day, especially in light of such persons as Umm Nidal.

Filou

Alexandra,

I am doubtful that others will “respond in kind to the sound choice Israel just made”. When presented with historical opportunities to negotiate a peace agreement (e.g. Camp David II, Gaza withdrawal), Palestinians seem to always choose the path of violence.

As Golda Meir said, “Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us”.

epaminondas

Be smart Alexandra, don't hope.
Given the HAMAS charter, there is simply nothing to talk about.
Hamas was voted in freely.
If there is no regional war, that will have to do.

When hate and racism is no longer taught in the schools, we will be one generation from peace.

That's all there is too it.

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