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Incontro

I've heard from those that habitate the same quarters as Dave and the gringo do that it's silly for anyone to complain about gas prices -- given that companies must deal with the threat from Iran, among other nifty excuses -- equating the price of a cup of coffee at Starbucks to a gallon of gasoline (or petrol, as you like :). I was just wondering if that crowd had any idea of the going price (and quantity measurement) of coffee?

And with that knowledge, why would a war with Iran or its potential have any influence on oil prices? Coffee is second only to oil in futures trading. Oh, and speaking of futures -- why does the price of currently available gas reflect the possible, not probable price of crude in the future? /rhetorical/

Just something to think about while simulating wargames in your head :)

David

"The diplomatic track is most definitely coming to a dead end... "

The sad thing is that anyone who has followed Iranian behavior for the past 30 years (let alone the last 1200 years or so--but especially since the rise of the Shiites to prominence in the 17th century) could have said that years ago.

Repeat after me: diplomatic negotiations with Muslims are seen as expressions of weakness.

While that may not be the case with a very, very few Muslims, it's a good working generalization, and will rarely fail to steer policy wisely. From the days of the Butcher of Medina, all Islam has followed the example of Mohammed: dominate with force when in a strong position; terrorize whenever that will gain a stronger position; lie and decieve whenever in a weak position. Truth is not an option, unless it can be used deceptively.

The only real diplomacy Islamic governments understand is submission to a greater force—either submission of the dar-al-harb to dar-al-islam or deceptive submission of sar-al-islam to dar-al-harb (until the table can be turned). Islamic culture is one of crafty barbarian thugs and magpies. It is a poor culture with little to commend it: few (if any) genuine accomplishments (algebra, "Arabic" numerals?--bah! Stolen from India and unused for centuries. Made their way independently to European use about the same time Muslims stated using them for... astrology). Nearly every positive thing (of which few remain at all) in Muslim culture was stolen or rag-picked off real civilizations.

Like the Iranian nuke capabilities.

It's well past time to implement some of the strategic and tactical steps recommended by Dafydd ab Hugh (Big Lizards). And what's the thing with allowing ANY of the middle eastern countries to weild the oil stick? Without their oil, they are nothing. The U.S. needs to get serious about nuclear power. Heck, pebble bed reactors (now almost "old tech") are simple enough that the Chinese are building them like crazy--some estimate China will have nearly 200 of them online in the next 15-20 years. And MIT has published prototype plans for a modular pebble bed reactor. Modular. The U.S. (still) has the monetary and manufacturing capabilities to set up a PBR factory to churn the things out.

And they are far safer and less expensive (barring eco-freak nutzo interference) than darned near anything other than hydropower.

Give the U.S. enough electricity and just watch the switch to electric vehicles... and watch (as other countries follow suit or buy their modular PBRs from the U.S.) oil prices plummet and middle eastern oil countries once again become the backwater nothings their cultures deserve to be.

Smash Iran. Really, smash it. Flat. I do not care by what means (although I believe Dafydd ab Hugh has outlined a process that could be both successful and optimum humanitarily). It'd show ME Muslim countries they really need to be careful to leave the slumbering giant alone. seriously.

Then, go big with nuclear power. Yes, there are many other means of producing enough power to offset ME oil--and short term, measures like allowing Alaskan oil development could also help. But nuclear power is safe, clean and can be relatively cheap (again, if politicians will just tell the eco-nutzos to shut up and go away)... and is much easier to implement now in a massive way than any other alternative. Gee, we even have massive amounts of nyuclear material handy from decommissioned nuclear weapons...

Heck. Confiscate the Iranian resources while we're at it. Let 'em eat cake.

But never, never, never think you can horse trade with a camel trader. Nuh-uh. Won't work. He'll cheat and then send his brother to knife you in the back.

Of course, this is all just blowing in the wind, cos politicians as a class—ours as well as Euros—have no spine and no cojones. And no character. Sure, there are a few sterling exceptions (whose sterling qualities usually tarnish quickly). But the exceptions do not rule. So, we'll have Western politicians listening to flappers telling them to negotiate right up until the moment their friendly Islamic diplomat buddy's chauffeur hands them a suitcase nuke.

Set to detonate... "now."

gringoman

It's been said that the lightning rod for George Bush's legacy (or maybe the splitting of it's atom?)is and will be Iran. This might be perfectly true. Unfortunately, there's another rod which is pretty powerful too,if not fissionable, and it's located right here in the once relatively insignificant domestic front, not normally the favorite venue of "Big Picture" global guys. This, as you know, is the "little" issue of borders and the tsunami of illegal "immigrants." Bush, judging by the stealth amnesty he's now supporting,(apparently thinking it's OK so long as you don't say the "A' word) either does not get it or feels too beholden to other interests, In such a bottomless bog, can he deal forcefully with Iran when he's beginning to lose not only the usual suspects, but even his own constituency who have pardoned so much, even his pc conduct in Iraq? Funny, how the local has gotten so global. A domestic crisis rebounding even on the Middle East powder keg, and just because Americans--okay, let's exclude "progressives" who do live in another world---understand that they are being invaded and occupied by a foreign power---and ironically it doesn't even speak Arabic or go in for burqas.

Jeremayakovka

There are many reasons to diplomatically, economically, and if necessary, militarily, coerce the Iranian regime to surrender nuclear capabilities or suffer consequences. And for artistic reasons, just ask Amir Normandi.

Dr Victorino de la Vega

The (deliberate?) ambiguity of the latest IAEA report on Iran is being twisted by the Neocons and their friends in government to make it appear as though Iran had done something illegal.

US Ambassador John Bolton had his prefab talking points ready yesterday: “This is a classic case of threat against international peace and security when it is combined with Iran's sponsorship of terrorism” which clearly smelled like yet another warmongering propaganda shot.

Today, faced with the tragic consequences of the Iraq quagmire and the rapid resurgence of jihadi Islamic fundamentalism from the Sinai peninsula’s posh and bobo resorts (the latter being closer to David War-Is-Peace Brooks’ heart but I’m digressing) to the inner cities and slums of Pakistan and Morocco that show the abysmal ineptness of President Bush and his gang of incompetent Neocon handlers, once cannot help recalling Brent Scowcroft’s prophetic warnings on Iraq in 2002…and the scorn with which his cautious conservative stance was received by Bush, Cheney & Co.

Back then, Neocon ideologue (and self-proclaimed “Iran expert”) Mike Ledeen summed up the Bush view in the columns of The National Review: “It's always reassuring to hear Brent Scowcroft attack one's cherished convictions […] He fears that if we attack Iraq “I think we could have an explosion in the Middle East. It could turn the whole region into a caldron and destroy the War on Terror...”

One can only hope that we turn the region into a cauldron, and faster, please. If ever there were a region that richly deserved being cauldronized, it is the Middle East today. If we wage the war effectively, we will bring down the terror regimes in Iraq, Iran, and Syria, and either bring down the Saudi monarchy or force it to abandon its global assembly line to indoctrinate young terrorists. That's our mission”

Next stop: Teheran.

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