Iran's Middle Finger Is Firmly Up

 

Ahem, this is no surprise to anyone, least of all ATB readers, who had a heads up nudge well ahead of time.

Well, I don't know what the appeasing, rabid anti-Semite ElBaradei was playing at, but the astonishing admission of one of Iran's top officials, that they were playing games with the IAEA so as to gain more time to complete their true nuclear ambitions, namely the acquisition of a nuclear bomb, as I revealed exclusively ahead of the MSM already in February, is something that ElBaradei certainly cannot deny anymore. I have never trusted that man, and his image as the Director General caught sleeping at the wheel grows more suspicious every day.

But, alas nothing. And certainly not at the seemingly perpetual stage of endless so called 'diplomatic wrangling', better described as impotent hand wringing; of utterly diluted UN sanctions, which Iran knows won't bite -- after all, the MSM has made it abundantly clear that any possibility of military strikes against Iran has completely evaporated, so why care about sanctions without any stick attached. All that is left, is a UN, hell bent on pursuing their usual 'stop or I'll say stop again' strategy.

Ahmadinejad however is only crazy in the sense that he truly believes what he says. So, what do you do with a delusional egomaniac in power. Amir Taheri's words keep ringing in my ear, and the realization that Ahmadinejad will not be committed to an asylum anytime soon is a scary prospect

...just before he announced that Iran had gatecrashed "the nuclear club", President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad disappeared for several hours. He was having a khalvat (tête-à-tête) with the Hidden Imam, the 12th and last of the imams of Shiism who went into "grand occultation" in 941.

According to Shia lore, the Imam is a messianic figure who, although in hiding, remains the true Sovereign of the World. In every generation, the Imam chooses 36 men, (and, for obvious reasons, no women) naming them the owtad or "nails", whose presence, hammered into mankind's existence, prevents the universe from "falling off". Although the "nails" are not known to common mortals, it is, at times, possible to identify one thanks to his deeds. It is on that basis that some of Ahmad-inejad's more passionate admirers insist that he is a "nail", a claim he has not discouraged. For example, he has claimed that last September, as he addressed the United Nations' General Assembly in New York, the "Hidden Imam drenched the place in a sweet light".Last year, it was after another khalvat that Ahmadinejad announced his intention to stand for president. Now, he boasts that the Imam gave him the presidency for a single task: provoking a "clash of civilisations" in which the Muslim world, led by Iran, takes on the "infidel" West, led by the United States, and defeats it in a slow but prolonged contest that, in military jargon, sounds like a low intensity, asymmetrical war.

In Ahmadinejad's analysis, the rising Islamic "superpower" has decisive advantages over the infidel. Islam has four times as many young men of fighting age as the West, with its ageing populations. Hundreds of millions of Muslim "ghazis" (holy raiders) are keen to become martyrs while the infidel youths, loving life and fearing death, hate to fight. Islam also has four-fifths of the world's oil reserves, and so controls the lifeblood of the infidel. More importantly, the US, the only infidel power still capable of fighting, is hated by most other nations.

The diplomatic track is most definitely coming to a dead end, and the world will soon have to face the deadly consequences. As I have been saying for some time now, Nuclear Jihad is fast approaching and we are running out of time. 

Let's have fun debating how our friends on the Left convince themselves that this is not so, a position accurately characterized as "wishful thinking", and why they believe that those amongst us, who do take Thug-In-Chief Ahmadinejad & Co. seriously, are merely promoting politics of phantom fear. Not to omit the reigning fruitcake Professors who never fail to disappoint

The Bush administration, now hobbled in pressing for any further formal wars by a Democratic Congress, may take a leaf from Reagan's playbook and engage in illegal, covert activities in Iran aimed at overthrowing the theocratic government.

Oh yes and I forget, there is the unhinged theory that the President has orchestrated this whole Iranian drama simply as 'a decoy':

The answer is that Iran is a convenient way for the Bush administration to get America's attention off of the Iraq debacle, rising gas prices, [..] Republican corruption, the massive budget deficit, and a growing number of revelations of how Bush lied to the American people in trying to sell them on the Iraq war.

Nah, Ahmadinejad is simply wishing us a Merry Christmas....sweet no?

Beginning Sunday morning, we will begin activities at Natanz — site of 3,000 centrifuges — and we will drive with full speed,” he was quoted as saying. “This will be our immediate response to the resolution.”

The really sad part is that we have blown it as far as he is concerned with our aggressive 'stop or I'll say stop again' campaign which has worn the Thug-In-Chief right down

"I am sorry for you who lost the opportunity for friendship with the nation of Iran. You yourself know that you cannot damage the nation of Iran an iota,"

Umh but then there is the comfort in knowing that the Iranian finger is indeed firmly up

Many legislators chanted "Death to America" after the vote.

Well that makes the Liberals feel all cozy and warm inside doesn't it...yeah right. As I have said before, The Devil's Arithmetic is

the work of our Machiavellian Thug-In-Chief at his best. Do not ever forget where he came from. Taking hostages is the business he knows best. Walking around in that monkey suit with sleeves that are always too long for him, and playing President is a role that suits him the least. This masterful plan however, has worked out like a dream.

Indeed.

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[rich]

The Massachusetts legislature voted on the gay marriage amendment today.

But here is something special.

A Major American newspaper urging legislators to violate their state constitution petition process:

"The SJC asserted clearly last week that the constitution directs the Legislature to vote on the substance of the amendment. But the court was also correct in saying it cannot force an independent branch to act. The only remedy for those who believe legislators are frustrating the constitution by refusing to vote, the court noted, is at the ballot box. Just so. Most legislators would take their chances with the voters in their own districts."

Read the rest of the Boston Globe editorial for a classic example of Orwell's newspeak.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/editorials/articles/2007/01/02/the_expanding_circle_of_rights

The right to petition the government is not available to those who disagree with the Boston Globe.

The Globe editors are totalitarians at heart.

Thankfully they did not win this round.

But the Globe will keep on trying to deny the citizens of Massachusetts the right to petition their government.

And woe be the day the Boston Globe succeeds.

For if one person loses the right to petition, the rest of us will as well.

[Crusader.NoRegrets.]

Yes, yes, Bill.

It must be so, you know, now like, the world is run by the Corporations, and they, like, sit in their Corporate buildings, and they're all, like, corporationy, just doing their corporationy stuff, being so lame and corporationy.

I'm afraid you're going to need more than that recycled DKos crap to cut it on this blog dude. I'd suggest you put down the bong, and pick up some books that weren't on the DKos reading list.

Why don't you start with "Live by the Sword" by Gus Russo. I know, I know, it's just some brash and "insensitive" look, by a cynical journalist, at the Kennedy assassination which debunks pretty much everything in the movie JFK. I picked that one because Bill here is in serious need of some conspiracy-theory surgery, and this book does it beautifully.

Bill: after reading this book you'll either be ashamed you ever thought there was a conspiracy against JFK, or you are far too braindead to enjoy the right to vote, and should immediately be disenfranchised, and possibly sent to a Gulag to do something useful.

There is still much work to do to educate you, but it's a start.

[Bill Guiles]

Little Green Fooballs have to be pretty desparate now to confabulate a progressive populist in Vermont with a bad judicial call on a pedophile, as though that's the pressing issue in the world today ... or has Limbaugh run out of dirty prol jokes? Iran has every right to develop nuclear power, having signed the NPT, unlike our "allies" Israel, Pakistan and India, who refused to sign, then developed nuclear weapons, and the means to deliver them. The UN has nuclear equipment sanctions in place against Iran now, those "3,000 centrifuges" are glacially-slow and obsolete technology. With a late start and the sanctions, Iran is a no-show, like Krushchev pounding the table with his shoe. As far as delivery, what? Nuclear RPG's? Come on ...

It's about Neo-Zionist propaganda now, killing off their ideological adversaries, using American blood and treasure to do their dirty work, what 3,000 dead, 45,000 maimed and $500,000M down the rathole of DoD. Then imagine a world without Iranian (and Venezualan) oil, with Brownfield Decider in Chief and his Carlyle Deutsche Group cronies happily laughing all the way to the EU-bank, despite scientific and economic pleas for energy efficiency buried under National Energy Policy hatched in Enronian back rooms, pushing for *taxpayer-paid* nuclear power bloat and gold-plated Yukon Denalis for the elites. Tehran is Repug red herring wet dream.

[karen]

I just wanted to add about VT (which sorta goes along w/the whole- "what will we do if Iran...").

People up here (born here, cause that matters) are very accepting as in: "What you do ain't nonna my business, so longs you don't rub my face in it or subject my own rights w/it." Live and let live.

It really has changed just so much even in the last 10-15 years, our atmosphere. Maybe it was Deanieboy and his ~brilliant~, no-necked handling of the gov't (i'm sure he did some good things, but he never was a man-for-the-common-man type of guy, you know?)

Fast forward to now- where Jeffords (the turncoat) retires and Sanders- ever the spokesman and champion of the commonfolk(me, if i chose; but common as i am, i'm informed thanks to my favourite blogs :0))is elected to represent the ~majority~ of VT. How ignorant can one be to vote for Traditionalists such as Gov Douglas and Lt Gov Dubie and then vote Sanders???

I talking commonfolk who couldn't give a crap about the facts of platforms, hate talking politics(their eyes cross and they tend to drool on themselves). Not being inquisitive, not taking part in dialogue- not questioning those we PAY to represent us, under-estimating our enimies-foreign :0)...

That's gonna bite us bigtime in the buttocks.

[Crusader.NoRegrets.]

Liquid

My money's on Israel - they're the ony people in the world who really CAN'T live with a nuclear Iran. By the way the dimiwt above who disparages Iran's nuclear potential is your typical leftwing racist. You know, leftspeak of the form "nah, the darkies are just too incompetent to ever catch up the technology gap". Or "the darkies are just inherently too savage to ever be held to account for gross human rights violations, like lobbing rockets at Israel with the express and only purpose of killing civilians". Damn, I hate the left, and will not be sorry when they are gone.

Back to the point about Iran. Change is the only constant here, and don't assume Iranian science can't ever produce rockets capable of hitting Europe and the U.S. At some point, (leftwing racism not withstanding), the "darkies" as the left implies they are, will in their own time discover guidance systems themselves, build submarines, design aircraft, possibly even superior to ours in the West.

Then the interesting part begins. I think it is pretty much self-eveident to all but the racist left that humanity cannot survive the convergence of aggressive Islam and nuclear weapons.

As a side note, I don't believe Ahmadama-ding-dong is Hitler. I think a far better analogy for Iran is Imperial Japan, with Ahmadinejad as Hideki Tojo, and the clerics as the Imperial Family. It is 1937 all over again, complete with a looming crippling shortage of refined petroleum. But where will Iran's Manchuria be? Iraq? Saudi Arabia? Either way, Iran's "Pearll Harbor" operation is gonna really hurt if they got nukes...

[Liquid]

--How do you solve a problem like Ahmadinejad?

I had a dream last night that Iran's oil dried up after a freaky earthquake took place and then guess what? Israel suddenly a few days later struck HUGE oil! Oil was flowing like wine!

It's just a dream I know...I saw no light over my head...I didn't confere with an iman that is supposedly deep inside a well, but I take all hope in looking back at that dream and it's sudden oil exchanges because all things are possible with Christ!

I suppose my point is, that nothing is too big or too bad that it can't be dealt with by higher powers!

Keep praying folks....keep praying! Oil and nukes can dissappear in one place and suddenly appear in others!

BTW....It's great to have ya back Alexandra!

[Ghost Dansing]

Sorry gringoman... it just sounded like you were suggesting Bernie was a pedophile and that his politics had something to do with pedophilia.

[gringoman]

from GD....Sounds like a bad judgment gringoman... not a ringing endorsement of pedophilia, nor an association with Bernie Sander's political philosophy... are you saying Bernie is a pedophile?

from gringoman:..... 'Sounds' like bad judgement? No, GD. It screams bad judgement. Does Wiki--unedited or otherwise--offer any examples of such colossal bad judgement back in pre-proggie Vermont?

If you don't know whether I called BS a pedophile, try reading again what I wrote. It should be clear. BS is not a perpetrator of a crime; he's just a symptom of a climate.

ps. To get back to the thrust of Alexandra's post (another burning issue, surely) I might even offer Bernie a laissez-passer on some of his symptoms if he can give us a plan to stop the Mullah Bomb---you know, something other than common DemSpeak sound bites about Bush and WMD "lies" and the need to jabber with the Ahmanites, like Slick's Madeleine Notsobright did with Little Kim in Pyongyang a decade ago.

[Red Violin]

Sorry off topic:

After having arrested tens of Iranian christians earlier this week, the Islamic Republic is intensifying its campaign against religious minorities. "I will remove Christiaitity from this land"--Ahmadinejad (2005)

Potkin has an entry on his blog regarding the arrests.
http://azarmehr.blogspot.com/

Islamic regime prohibits Christmas mass in church in the city of Rasht

Iran Press News: Human rights activists in Iran reported that the ministry of intelligence and security (MOIS) officials prohibited the Christmas mass ceremonies in the Church in the northern city of Rasht.

Following the extensive arrest of Christians in cities across Iran by MOIS officials religious ceremonies are prohibited via pressure and threats. Due to the threats and pressure, after the arrest of the leaders of their church in recent weeks, the parishioners of the church have been unable to hold mass.
Three years ago, the church in Rasht was also stormed by MOIS agents during a religious ceremony; the agents then confiscated all of the church’s belongings, never to return them. The parishioners once again refurnished their church and due to the continued threats by MOIS, they changed the days of their worship and mass from Sundays to Tuesdays.

The church leaders remain in MOIS custody. Between Wednesday, December 13th to Tuesday, December 19th the church leaders were taken 3 times from prison to the Rasht revolutionary court where they were illegally tried. Their families are extremely concerned about the status of their loved ones. MOIS agents prevented their families from seeing them in front of courthouse.

http://www.iranpressnews.com/english/source/018856.html

[Ernesto Ribeiro]

Europe is SO decadent, suicidal, stupid and crazy, and now Europe needs to follow the example of Ethiopia. It seems being a joke. But, unfortunatelly, it’s not.

[Red Violin]

R. Nicholas Burns, the US undersecretary of state, called the vote "humiliating" for Iran. Who is kidding whom? The most likely result is to strengthen both Iran's resolve to resist the west and domestic support for this stand. It will not persuade Tehran to suspend all uranium enrichment-related and reprocessing activities.

It's time we either "put up or shut up". Unless we apply oil sanctions, we will not be able to influence the Iranian leadership. An oil boycott is enforceable because the vast majority of oil is exported by ship or pipeline which can easily be blocked.

[Muslim Unity]

I found your blog through a search, however I feel it would be nicer if you presented a more balanced view.

Several people in Iran are suffering because of sanctions.

[Ghost Dansing]

Sounds like a bad judgment gringoman... not a ringing endorsement of pedophilia, nor an association with Bernie Sander's political philosophy... are you saying Bernie is a pedophile?

Anyway... I want to contribute the hysteria over Western impotence in the face of the Iranian juggernaut...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGoEcIEv3_Y&mode=related&search=

this ain't no party... this ain't no disco... this ain't no foolin' around...

[gringoman]

from GD....... It kinda looks like Vermont has always been "The Peoples Republic of Vermont"...

I mean that in a good way.

from gringoman......... I doubt that even the unedited annals of wiki can show that Vermont, in olden times, was ever The People's Republic of Pedophilia. It might be known for drawbridges, but not little girls' drawers. Electing a socialist to the U.S. Senate might, of course, just be entirely coincidental and not really symptomatic. (I'm sure that Bernie Sanders would never personally or ideologically or consciously encourage pedophiles.) Nevertheless, outrage---"overblown" you may say, but not confined to the boycotting Bill O'Reilly---suggests that some are now seeing the March of the Progs, or progressiveness, in Vermont (not unrelated to the prog offensive in neighboring Massachusetts, demanding state-recognized homosexual marriage.) Judge Cashman made their case by sentencing Mark Hulet,age 34, who during a 4-year time span continually raped a child from a poor family, to 60 days in prison.

http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=4319605

[rich]

Has anyone been following the petition to amend the Massachusetts Constitution on the gay marriage issue?

The Supreme Judicial Court issued a decision yesterday that said that the Legislature had a clear duty to vote on the matter, but could not be ordered by the court to do so because of separation of powers.

http://www.masslawyersweekly.com/signup/opinion.cfm?page=ma/opin/sup/1019306.htm

This would be the correct decision if we were only talking about good law. However there is precedent to the contrary in Massachusetts. The Supreme Judicial Court has issued "orders" to the legislature in the past. And threatened remedies if the legislature did not comply.

In What case was that? It must be some obscure case from long ago and far away.

No it was not. It was the case that the petition sought to overturn: the gay marriage case, GOODRIDGE, et al. v. DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH, et al.

This is how the Court ordered the legislature to approve gay marriage in that case:

"In their complaint the plaintiffs request only a declaration that their exclusion and the exclusion of other qualified same-sex couples from access to civil marriage violates Massachusetts law. We declare that barring an individual from the protections, benefits, and obligations of civil marriage solely because that person would marry a person of the same sex violates the Massachusetts Constitution. We vacate the summary judgment for the department. We remand this case to the Superior Court for entry of judgment consistent with this opinion. Entry of judgment shall be stayed for 180 days to permit the Legislature to take such action as it may deem appropriate in light of this opinion. See, e.g., Michaud v. Sheriff of Essex County, 390 Mass. 523, 535-536 (1983)."

http://www.masslaw.com/signup/opinion.cfm?page=ma/opin/sup/1017603.htm

The only thing the Supreme Judicial Court did yesterday is preserve judicial autocracy in Massachusetts!

Talk about a hypocritical decision to deny the people their right to petition!

[Ghost Dansing]

"Bernard "Bernie" Sanders (born September 8, 1941) is a United States Representative and current Senator-elect from Vermont. He has represented Vermont's at-large district in the United States House of Representatives since 1991.

Sanders is an independent, but caucuses with the Democrats and is counted as a Democrat for the purposes of committee assignments. He is the only independent member of the House, and one of very few self-described democratic socialists elected to federal office in the United States in recent times; he is also the first self-described socialist to be elected to the U.S. Senate.

Sanders vacated his House seat in order to run in the 2006 election for the Senate seat to be vacated by the retiring Jim Jeffords and won the election with 65% of the vote.

Sanders, the son of a Jewish Polish immigrant to the United States, was born in Brooklyn. He graduated from James Madison High School in Brooklyn and later attended the University of Chicago, graduating with a Bachelor of Science degree in 1964.

Sanders moved to Vermont in 1964. He worked as a carpenter and journalist.

Sanders was reelected six times and was the longest-serving independent member of the House. Despite his independent status, he only faced one difficult contest. That came in 1994, in the midst of the Republican Revolution that swept Republicans into control of the Congress. In a year when many marginal seats fell to Republicans, Sanders managed a narrow three-point victory. In every other election, he has won at least 55 percent of the vote. Most recently, in 2004, Sanders took 69 percent to Republican Greg Parke's 24 percent and Democrat Larry Drown's 7 percent.

Democratic socialism is a broad political movement propagating the ideals of socialism within the context of a democratic system.

In many cases, its adherents promote the ideal of socialism as an evolutionary process resulting from legislation enacted by a constitutional democracy. Other democratic socialists favor a revolutionary approach that would establish socialism by creating a non-parliamentary direct democracy, usually based at the local and national levels — including broadbased popular associations such as worker councils, consumer councils and community groups. While radical left-wing currents such as anarchism could be considered to be democratic and socialist, the term 'democratic socialist' is not used to describe them. (Nevertheless, the Russian anarchist Mikhail Bakunin referred to anarchism as democratic socialism.)

Writers and activists such as Upton Sinclair, Karl Marx, George Orwell, Jean Jaurès, Robert Owen, Eduard Bernstein, Bertrand Russell, Sidney Webb and Beatrice Webb have contributed to democratic socialist philosophy.

Popular movements such as trade unionism, the Chartists and the British Labour Party are also notable.

Many of those who describe themselves as socialists argue that socialism necessarily implies democracy, thus making democratic socialism a redundant term. The fact that one specific movement is called democratic socialism does not mean that other branches of socialism must be less democratic. The term is often used by those who wish to contrast this form of socialism with Communism, Stalinism and other ideologies that democratic socialists consider dictatorial in practice."

Yep... looks like we found the "far left" goal post in America with Bernie Sanders.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders

"The original Green Mountain Boys were a paramilitary infantry organized in Southwestern Vermont in the decade prior to the American Revolutionary War. They comprised settlers and land speculators who held New Hampshire titles to lands between the Connecticut River and Lake Champlain, what is now modern Vermont. New York was given control of the area by a decision of the British crown and refused to respect the New Hampshire Grants and town charters.

With several hundred members, the Green Mountain Boys effectively controlled the area where New Hampshire grants had been issued. They were led by Ethan Allen, his brother Ira Allen, and their cousins Seth Warner and Remember Baker. They were based at the Catamount Tavern in Bennington, ironically only a short distance from the New York seat of government in Albany.

Vermont eventually declared itself an independent nation in January 1777, and organized a government based in Windsor. The army of the Vermont Republic was based upon the Green Mountain Boys. Although Vermont initially supported the American Revolutionary War and sent troops to fight John Burgoyne's British invasion from Canada at Hubbardton and Bennington in 1777, Vermont eventually adopted a more neutral stance and became a haven for deserters from both the British and colonial armies. George Washington, who had more than sufficient difficulties with the British, brushed off Congressional demands that he subdue Vermont. The Vermont Army version of the Green Mountain Boys faded away after Vermont joined the United States as the 14th U.S. state in 1791. They returned for the War of 1812, the Civil War, and later more formally as the Vermont National Guard."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Mountain_Boys

It kinda looks like Vermont has always been "The Peoples Republic of Vermont"...

I mean that in a good way. :)

[gringoman]

Secular-Progressives. Lots of them up here in VT- esp Bernie Sanders. God help us.

Posted by: karen | Wednesday, December 27, 2006 at 06:42 PM

Bill O'Reilly is still boycotting Vermont over that judge who only slapped the wrist of a man who pedophiled a little girl for about four years (as you probably know.) I went up anyway for leaf-peeping in October, visiting an old proggie friend who thinks that "right-wing" O'Reilly is over-reacting, as if Vermont has become pedophile-friendly. (But I was unusually diplomatic, not asking him or his wife how they would have reacted if it had been one of their young daughters.)

Would the Green Mountain Boys recognize today's Vermonters? We went out one night to a debate in Brattleboro for U.S. Senate between Brooklyn's very own Bernie Sanders and the Republican (and an old paunchy semi-Trotskyite who at least provided some comic relief.) The debate hardly mattered. Brooklyn Bernie's Hollywood money and his skillfull 20 years of smart, popular carpet-bagging (I'm told he was liked as Burlington Mayor) made the election results a foregone conclusion: The self-made logical millionaire businessman was soundly routed by the self-made socialist millionaire politician. The Green Mountain State on its way to becoming Green Mountain People's Republic? God's help? So many seemed to think that God, if existing, would certainly want Hillarycare, Bush impeached, a higher minimum wage, and more taxes.

[karen]

Oh, and i'm reading the Culture Warrior (laugh JBinC)(is the Bin significant of something?)

Secular-Progressives. Lots of them up here in VT- esp Bernie Sanders. God help us.

[karen]

I copy/pasted your post to a Lib friend, Alexandra. He answered: "What should we do- nuke them?"&"What would you do?"

He then countered w/a NYT's interview w/AMadHammerhead, totally believing his words and, when i pointed out that it totally contradicted your post w/links saying the total opposite, said that- "the people i listen to are too closed-minded." "He's the leader of 70,000,000 people and elected democratically, i thought that was what you wanted."

Elected? Democratically? I think you must feel as i do right now- x1,000 @least, eh? Arrggh is right.

[Alexandra]

"A Nuclear Iran is not a threat" is your point?

I am afraid I lose you right there.

[James McNilson]

I wish every once in a while you would clarify the distinction between iran as a nation
and its government. many visitors of your site can easily get the impression
that ahmadinejad truly represents iranians. The majority of americans do not know that
iranian arab and muslim are not synonimous.

[I don't appreciate you spamming my post with links about some family called Dobrev which has nothing to do with me, immediately after you have made this comment. I have deleted it and will ban you if you do that again. I don't see your point, especially as you have got your facts wrong. If you want to play games I suggest you get your facts right, and read my about page before making an idiot of yourself. As for your comment above, you are absolutely right, and I will make sure that I write about that. ]

[Johnny Bin Carroll]

Ahhhh, that Liberal clarity. What a breath of fresh air.

Isn't it, I'm glad you can appreciate so ebulently :)

What is your actual point?

A Nuclear Iran is not a threat.

You are comparing Iran to India and Pakistan? Eh?

Yes

You would like Iran to have the same nuclear capabilities as the US?

They can't...they don't have the technology, and won't for a very long time.

You would like the US to disarm?

No, however a significant reduction of our Imperial overreach would be wise.

The Iranian nuclear capability is an impotent joke?

Somewhat.

What is your point?

Yes, thank you.

[Alexandra]

Ahhhh, that Liberal clarity. What a breath of fresh air.

What is your actual point?

You are comparing Iran to India and Pakistan? Eh?

You would like Iran to have the same nuclear capabilities as the US?

You would like the US to disarm?

The Iranian nuclear capability is an impotent joke?

What is your point?

[Johnny Bin Carroll]

...and it was so horrible when Pakistan got the bomb, and India

yup no moslems anywhere around there...

The US has more nuclear firepower in ONE sub than Iran could acqiure in a 50 years..

... not to mention they don't have the missle technology to deliver anything but a local package...

[mac Brachman]

Correction: I misspelled Richard Rodgers' surname in the previous post. Shalom/Happy 2007, Mac Brachman

[mac Brachman]

Ugh. Or arrggh. With apologies to Rogers and Hammerstein, How do you solve a problem like Ahmadinejad? The question is, if he gets the Bomb, is he really crazy enough to use it against Israel? Do we want to wait to find out? Shalom, and Happy New Year (I hope), Mac Brachman

[Francis W. Porretto]

Bravo, Alexandra. An excellent summary of the state of the crisis. And now, let us all await with bated breath the "international community's" unanimous condemnation of Iranian unilateralism!