
'The Return of the Prodigal Son' by Rembrandt ca. 1669, The Hermitage, St. Petersburg
A dear friend in New York sends me this in an e-mail:
"The last few days’ news coverage in Europe of the pending and then the actual execution of Saddam Hussein has been bewildering. It has removed some of the satisfaction of justice finally being done. It is unbelievable how the “world” now in a reinvigorated fashion is calling for the ban of the death penalty. Where were these cries when Saddam Hussein, apart from all his well documented atrocities, regularly had innocent people condemned to death and executed by his favorite method – by hanging. But Saddam hanged people publicly letting the poor victims’ bodies remain hung for hours for public display and “games”. Where was the outrage by the world? Where was the outrage of the world when 9 innocent Jews were hung in a public spectacle accused of spying for Israel and where their through the wall air condition units were deemed to be secret radio transmitters? Nothing of what was allowed Saddam Hussein, was ever afforded to his innocent victims – Christians, Jews, Kurds and Shiites.
CNN and the International Herald Tribune have actually inferred that the US may be behind the execution, the trial was unfair, the US should never have handed Saddam over, life imprisonment would have been a crueler sentence, he will be more dangerous dead than alive, he will become a celebrated martyr in the Islamic world for standing up to America, the violence in Iraq will increase dramatically, the world will be outraged and broadly condemn the execution etc., etc. Each statement is ludicrous and irresponsible. It doesn’t only show bias against the US, clumsy and cheap flirtation with the Arab world, but it demonstrates ignorance, superficiality, total lack of responsibility and no attempt to uphold the most basic standards of journalism.
Most of media today have concluded that every reason for the
invasion of Iraq was wrong and they applaud Bush Senior’s handling of
the Gulf War in 1992. It is amazing that no one has seriously begun to
re-evaluate this version of history. The truth is that the ending of
the Gulf war before removing Saddam Hussein was one of the most
incomprehensible, irresponsible, short term political opportune and
cowardly decisions ever. Saddam had not only occupied Kuwait without
the slightest provocation. He had killed hundreds of innocent Kuwaitis
and many more disappeared without ever being heard from again. He
plundered Kuwait of its treasures, he destroyed properties and his
soldiers went on raping sprees etc. How can anyone maintain that the
responsibility of the free democratic world was only to put Saddam in
his place and bring matters back to where they were before the
invasion? An incomprehensible conclusion that even more astonishingly
till this day remains unchallenged. Bush Senior will unfortunately most
likely be devalued in history to a person with no leadership skills and
totally lacking in vision. An incurable “number two” type more suited
to report to someone than to lead. His son seems to have realized this
and tried with far more courageous leadership to do what had to be
done. One of the biggest ironies is that if Bush Senior would have gone
all the way to Baghdad and removed Saddam (even without the blessings
of the French and Russia was in too much of a mess to be able to mount
any opposition), he would with certainty have been re-elected
President. Instead his “wishy washiness” remained evident to the voters
who abandoned him.
Looking back virtually every recent
President’s real impact and contributions has been completely
reassessed. The media’s unified adoration for Gerald Ford today stands
in stark contrast to their accusations during his time in power.
Another
noteworthy fact is that George Bush Senior as Vice President was
outraged by Israel taking out Saddam’s nuclear reactor (of the cabinet
only Ronald Reagan and Alexander Haig gave the Israeli action the
benefit of the doubt) and wanted to impose serious sanctions against
the country only to later have to accept that the Secretary of Defense
during the Gulf War – Dick Cheney – sent a letter thanking the Israeli
leadership and stating that the action and victory of the Gulf War
would not have been possible without Israel having destroyed Saddam’s
nuclear capabilities earlier.
The undignified behavior of the
new forces of power in Iraq and the unchecked undercurrent of religious
fanatics, only serves to re-enforce the importance of the presence of
the US and Western forces in Iraq. To suggest that this behavior will
disappear with the withdrawal of troops borders on the infantile at
best. There is little doubt that the positive alternatives in Iraq are
hard to find, but sparing Saddam’s life would not have been such an
event. Rather than more violence being triggered by his execution, the
Sunnis now most likely are finally realizing the fact that there is no
turning back the “clock”. There was never a successor in the wings to
Saddam except for his sons, therefore only Saddam’s complete departure
guarantees that all the factions in Iraq are looking forward."
Jeremayakovka sends me a link to a David Horowitz 'Revenge Is Justice' slam dunk comment:
It's a pinch myself day when the lead news story is about recriminations and regrets that Saddam Hussein, a man who incarnates evil, was not treated more decently at his belated hanging. And the editorial hand-wringing is that this was revenge not justice. As though being nice to someone who put human beings in plastic shredders -- head first -- and boiled even his relatives in oil, would make us more civilized rather than less. Revenge is justice. Saddam should have been drawn and quartered. The best thing about his execution was the presence of Shi'ia muslims taunting him with the memory of one of his Shi'ia victims. The shameless left and shameless liberals who would have kept this monster in power and are now shedding tears over the fact that he was killed should have the decency to let the Iraqis have their moment of revenge, pitiful as it is compared to the crimes this monster committed. Thankfully, at least one liberal -- the editor of the New Rep ublic Marty Peretz -- has had some sensible things to say on this subject in today's Wall Street Journal












Geez, GD. Move on, get over yourself already.
GWB is desparately trying to persuade the rest of the world that he is still relevant, but everyone knows the US is on the run ideologically and strategically. The battle with the lone giant is coming to a close. The battle of the pygmies is about to begin.
And by the way, how exactly am I "freeking" out again? Just wondering. Tell me I'm wrong and why, if you are able. Else I stand by my claims. Do you think (a) Israelis will allow Olmert to allow Iran to get the bomb, or (b) allow Olmert to allow Abbas to allow Hamas to lob rockets into Israel indefinitely?
Not to mention the looming criminal corruption cases against the Livni-Olmert cabinet....
Posted by: Crusader.NoRegrets. | Wednesday, January 10, 2007 at 10:12 AM
Here's an interesting insight from Maureen Dowd from which we can predict the next political gambit by this Republican administration:
Dubya and the Republicans are experts at keeping the Nation in a double-bind... Puts us all in a bad position, they stand their like dopes and ask "Well, whaddya want me ta do 'bout it?"
Modern Republicanism... "Seldom in doubt... frequently wrong". Americans, however, are beginning to see that these guys are very very predictable.
The "surge" tactic has been tried before in Baghdad, and has already failed... Biden is right... this administration is just cynical... buying time so that the problem will end up the problem of the next administration.
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Posted by: Ghost Dansing | Wednesday, January 10, 2007 at 04:56 AM
Check out the Sanity Squad's 30-minute discussion of the execution at PJM.
(And thanks for the nod, Alexandra. -:))
Posted by: Jeremayakovka | Wednesday, January 10, 2007 at 12:20 AM
Alexandra... come back! We miss you! It's time for you to post another picture or something! Crusader is freeking-out!
Posted by: Ghost Dansing | Tuesday, January 09, 2007 at 08:55 PM
Israel is now dropping less-than-subtle hints that the genocidal slobbering and chanting from Iran will soon be coming to an end (to be replaced by howls of outrage from the International Left. Good. Let the maggots bleed.)
Indeed, there are growing grumblings from the Israeli right for an ouster of the Olmert gang, and they are nothing if not political opportunists (I stand by my assertion that we'll live to see him assassinated or thrown in prison anyway) so they'll seize on the UN's systemic anti-semitism to beat the living s--t outta the Iranian nuclear program, in order to appear to be super-duper wise and wily. In other words "oh that clusterf*** in Lebanon, that was all part of our super-duper topsy-secret 'cunning plan' (sorry Baldrick)".
I doubt nuclear weapons will be needed. The Israelis will find a conventional way to set Natanz back about three years, but from that point on Iran and Europe will be on notice that the next time Iran starts frothing at the mouth, Israel will be answering with a fission weapon. Which is the appropriate response for the people whose main crime of the last thousand years has been "living while Jewish".
Oh boy, ain't life grand!?
Posted by: Crusader.NoRegrets. | Tuesday, January 09, 2007 at 07:22 PM
the thing god would want you to do is forgive saddam. i can forgive anyone for anything. but i could forgive him and still say he must die. there are the laws of god and there are the laws of man. they do not have to work together but in many cases they do. forgiving someone and showing them mercy is not the same thing. everyone has to pay for their actions in this life as well as the next life.
Posted by: lucas | Tuesday, January 09, 2007 at 03:26 PM
RR, I think your correct in pointing to the political leadership as the central problem with the Vietnam war. However, I think you are drawing the wrong conclusions; tactical successes and superior force-on-force acknowledged
The problem was that the political leadership was self-deceptive and dishonest about what could realistically be achieved through military power in Vietnam... Just like Iraq.
The Pentagon papers brought to light the fact that the military staff, itself, realized that the situation was impossible from a military perspective.
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Posted by: Ghost Dansing | Tuesday, January 09, 2007 at 05:18 AM
GD
Just tell me, what memories do you have of Vietnam?
Were you there?
Know anyone who was there?
Ever meet a vet who was?
Ever been in a shooting war?
How about a race riot?
How about a street fight?
Anything?
When I returned, arriving at Newark airport, I was in full uniform and was spit at by a bunch of orange nightgown clad faggots singing a bunch of nonsense out of time to a guy/girl(couldn't tell which)with a tamborine. So I marched through the throng with a few other vets hoping these faggots would start something. They didn't have a set of balls among them, and all it took was one eyeball to eyeball look at their apparent "leader" to back them off.
We won in Vietnam. Kicked the S**t out of the NVA and VC. We all know the rest of the story, sad as it might be.
Those "people" (some deranged species of the human race) thought they had it right. War is not a good thing...peace is the way. No matter the consequences. Too bad it's a fantisy. I would love to go back to the sixties and sing Kumbya with a bunch of less than fully clad (no underware) pot head, flower children broads frolicking in the parks in NJ. They were easy marks and it would have been a lot of fun to play with them if only they had bathed like about once a week. The're ilk is still out there, for the time being... Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry et al. I never met a combat vet, from Westmoreland on down the ranks (Yea ,I knew the guy personally.) who was not committed to winning that conflict. WE held off the "commies" at a critical time. Problem was that our political "leadership" sucked. Period!
If I have one regret, it would be that I was born into the wrong generation. This war against the Islamo-fashists has much more at stake than what we were fighting in Nam. By the way, Petraeus is no slug...Brookman is.
JCC
PS. When you can measure up to "Dubya" I'll be the first to salute you.
Posted by: RunningRoach | Tuesday, January 09, 2007 at 12:25 AM
Where is the outrage indeed?
Posted by: Ghost Dansing | Monday, January 08, 2007 at 08:20 PM
Didn't my link to the full article work for you Darrell?
Posted by: Ghost Dansing | Monday, January 08, 2007 at 05:14 AM
You are kicked out of school, Ghost, for plagiarism! Shame on you!
http://wdtprs.com/blog/2006/01/vigil-of-epiphany/
VIGIL of Epiphany
CATEGORY: SESSIUNCULUM, WDTPRS, 06 YEAR SIX ( 2005/06): SUPER OBLATA (2) — Fr. John Zuhlsdorf @ 6:21 am
What Does the Prayer Really Say? Vigil of Epiphany
Be gone now!
Posted by: Darrell | Monday, January 08, 2007 at 12:21 AM
Information Please
I have a secret to tell, from my electrical well... it's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells... like the Longine Symphonette... the message is infinite...
Posted by: Ghost Dansing | Sunday, January 07, 2007 at 05:44 PM
20+C+M+B+07
Christus Mansionem Benedicat
That should protect us against all manner of Ghosts. . .
Happy Epiphany, everyone!
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The Left's tears have nothing to do with who deserves them: They are solely for the acquisition of power. And once firmly in control, the tears magically disappear: They show no mercy, nor shed no tear.
Posted by: Darrell | Sunday, January 07, 2007 at 04:44 PM
saddam fans sing the blues
Posted by: Ghost Dansing | Saturday, January 06, 2007 at 05:30 PM
saddam fans
Posted by: Ghost Dansing | Saturday, January 06, 2007 at 05:20 PM
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Posted by: Ghost Dansing | Friday, January 05, 2007 at 08:17 PM
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Posted by: Ghost Dansing | Friday, January 05, 2007 at 08:16 PM
The question should never be whether or not Saddam deserves to die and I don’t believe it has ever been. For anyone to make that the question is completely absurd. Just laws demand that Saddam pay fully for his crimes and he should. But I don’t know that it would ever be enough.
Therefore, the point to be made is that people should be relieved by his execution, rather than revel in it. For the very fact that Saddam’s execution cannot make up for his crimes; it cannot bring back those he murdered or restore those he maimed. The fact remains that, after his execution is “celebrated”, if it is “celebrated”, his victims will still be left with the pain they bear, as a result of murdered or maimed loved ones, who will never come back and will never be restored. This is a hard cold fact that will outlive any euphoria his execution may bring. Clearly, the wishes of the victims in their quest for justice or vengeance are understandable and highly regarded, and perhaps, they find solace in “rejoicing” over Saddam’s execution.
Nevertheless, reveling in Saddam’s execution may not mean anything in real terms, as an end product analysis, to those he maimed or the families of those he murdered. In apparent terms, perhaps it does, and may be that would suffice for the victims, albeit fleetingly. But does it, or rather can it restore the lives that have been damaged or lost? Can it remove the pain his victims bear? We all know the answer to that. For this reason, it may be illusory to be overjoyed by his execution. Saddam’s execution is not as substantive as one might think, particularly to the victims who have suffered terribly at his blood stained hands.
Reveling in Saddam’s execution, as the focus of the event, runs the risk of exposing people to an experience paralleling Saddam’s exhilarating feeling over the demise of his victims.
I understand that my view is a bit philosophical, especially in light of the realities of the moment. But in the heat of the moment, we must not forget that our moral principles are essentially philosophical, and are the cornerstones of our civilization and values, which restrain us from being corrupted by whatever circumstance that may beset us.
Posted by: slowtrain | Friday, January 05, 2007 at 07:18 PM
Have any of you guys ever watched videos or seen still images of a Palestinian street-mob execution of someone randomly labelled a "collaborator" with Israel? Surely, plenty of nastiness to get worked up about, but NOOOOooooooo...., we gotta get all tied up about some worthless sh--bag being taunted before taking the drop of doom. And there was no doubt whatsoever about Hussein's guilt.
I personally agree with David Warren. He should have been quietly strangled once he could (or would) no longer provide useful information on the Iraqi insurgency, and his body hung up from a lamppost, like the p.o.s. he was.
Posted by: Crusader.NoRegrets. | Friday, January 05, 2007 at 05:21 PM
GD is on the right side of history here.
Indeed, I have been waiting for the howls of outrage and anguish from the left on the treatment of Iranian and Saudi women, and Palestinian homosexuals, and Jewish and Hindu minorities in Muslim lands, and Christians in Pakistan, and so on.....
Posted by: Crusader.NoRegrets. | Friday, January 05, 2007 at 03:54 PM
Ghost, hand-wringing does not count as outrage, nor is it helpful to the victims.
Posted by: antimedia | Friday, January 05, 2007 at 01:14 AM
Where was the outrage? Where it's always been. Safely tucked away, reserved for just the right political opportunity to use it.
Posted by: antimedia | Friday, January 05, 2007 at 01:13 AM
In 1993, the International Commission of Jurists said that there was "sufficient evidence of the fact that torture has become widespread in Iraqi prisons" and deplored the fact that Iraq "disregards the most important right, namely the right to life." The UN Special Rapporteur on Human Rights in Iraq said in November 1999 "Extreme and brutal force is threatened and applied without hesitation and with total impunity to control the population" and has frequently expressed the sentiment that the human rights situation inside Iraq is worse than any country since the end of World War II.
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Posted by: Ghost Dansing | Thursday, January 04, 2007 at 07:07 PM
"Torture and ill-treatment of prisoners and detainees were widely reported. According to reports, at least six people had their hands amputated as punishment."
I believe two of these men visited the White House and shook W's hand to thank him for finally doing the most obvious thing- take Saddam out of power.
GDansing... I'd say you almost agree w/the majority here. Kewl :0).
Posted by: karen | Thursday, January 04, 2007 at 06:24 PM
Not to have executed Saddam Hussein would have demeaned the rights to life of all his victims -- to say nothing of the old monster's value as a figure around whom the Syrians could rally Ba'athists and Sunnis determined to rule Iraq once more. But one must expect leftists to make a mascot out of any murderer. It's their way of asserting their moral superiority to the rest of us, who merely want to sleep safely in our own beds. Six out of ten of them would argue even today that Saddam was the "rightful ruler" of Iraq, and that our toppling him was unjustifiable and criminal.
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto | Thursday, January 04, 2007 at 05:31 PM
 Amnesty International, Annual Report, 1999: Iraq
"Suspected political opponents, including possible prisoners of conscience, continued to be arrested and tens of thousands of others arrested in previous years remained held. Scores of Kurdish families were forcibly expelled from their homes and members of targeted families detained. Torture and ill-treatment of prisoners and detainees were widely reported. According to reports, at least six people had their hands amputated as punishment. There was no further news on the fate of thousands of people who “disappeared” in previous years. Hundreds of people, including political prisoners, were reportedly executed; some may have been extrajudicially executed. Death sentences continued to be imposed, including for non-violent offences. Human rights abuses were reported in areas under Kurdish control."
 Amnesty International, Annual Report, 2001: Iraq"Hundreds of people, among them political prisoners including possible prisoners of conscience, were executed. Hundreds of suspected political opponents, including army officers suspected of planning to overthrow the government, were arrested and their fate and whereabouts remained unknown. Torture and ill-treatment were widespread and new punishments, including beheading and the amputation of the tongue, were reportedly introduced. Non-Arabs, mostly Kurds, continued to be forcibly expelled from their homes in the Kirkuk area to Iraqi Kurdistan."
Amnesty International: Iraq; Disappearances since the 80's
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Posted by: Ghost Dansing | Thursday, January 04, 2007 at 05:22 PM
Alexanda, excellent post, good point. This is the real outrage:
Our infants, our future...
Education in the Saudi Arabia: video of the state-owned TV IQRA, showing as should be "the ideal education" of a Saudi infant on Jews - shocking!
3 years and half. In that age, the girl already knows to repeat what learned how in the school and at home:
"The Jews are monkeys and pigs. Who said that was our god (Allah), in the Koran. Because... they do not like our prophet Mohammed... he killed someone. ..”
http://www2.youtube.com/watch?v=u3z-B7L8LQ4
Posted by: Ernesto Ribeiro | Thursday, January 04, 2007 at 12:45 PM