Introducing The Angel Of Death (Repeat)

Crowds of people have congregated as if in anticipation of experiencing a miraculous religious vision - but instead a grotesque dead chicken lies slumped across the cliff-top in front of them. The crowd's inability to recognize the inanity of the object they are venerating, emphasized the futility of their mission.
"Chihuahua" by David Alfaro Siqueiros 1947, Museo de Arte Alvar y Carmen T de Carillo, Mexico City

By now, at the tail end of 2007, we all know who Mohammad-Ali Ramin is. But when I first wrote about him some eighteen months ago he was a relative unknown, and aside from the odd flutter at the beginning of this year, when he claimed in a December 28th interview with a Tehran-based 'Baztab' news website that Hitler was Jewish, he is keeping his powder relatively dry. I still say, fasten your seat belts, it's going to be an explosive ride:

"We will acquire this [nuclear] technology and export it to all the 150 countries. This is the power we have not yet used."

Mohammad-Ali Ramin's looks are deceptive.

He is good looking with his soft, well manicured beard. His looks are either German or Scandinavian, blue eyes, light hair. Nothing threatening, charming smile; you'd invite him to your dinner party without a moments hesitation. Well almost....

Little would you know that you would be wining and dining the very reincarnation of Heinrich Himmler, Joseph Goebbels, Adolf Eichmann, Dr Josef Mengele dubbed 'The Angel of Death', you name it, take your pick, improved only in looks and finesse. Pure, unabashed, soft-spoken evil. Measured in tone, deliberate and utterly confident in everything he says. He's not a psychopath, but someone who is absolutely convinced to occupy the moral high ground, certain of his convictions being sanctioned by Allah himself.

In response to Russian President Putin's remark, "..we have enough nuclear weapons to destroy the whole world 7 times over, but [we] do not talk like Iranian leaders do, so why do [they]?", he says:

"[We have] just woken up after 16 years of forgetting God. [...] Only 11 countries in the world [are] against Iran whereas there [are] some 150 states supporting Iran."

“We will acquire this [nuclear] technology and export it to all the 150 countries,” he threatened, adding that “this is the power we have not yet used”.

Ramin claimed that Ahmadi Nezhad's presidency [that's how 'Thug-in-Chief' Ahmadinejad is affectionately called by his close friends and admireres] had created a new global wave and that many world leaders had lined up to speak with him. He also stressed that Europe and the US were entirely incapable of threatening Iran.

Who is Mohammad-Ali Ramin and why should we pay very close attention to what he has to say?

He is what Joseph Goebbels was to Hitler. He is the brain behind "Thug-In-Chief" Ahmadinejad, his hard-line presidential advisor.

He is the editor-in-chief of Emamat monthly, a founder of the Association of the Islamic Path in Europe, director of the Holocaust seminar in Tehran, and secretary-general of the new "world foundation for Holocaust Studies".

Like Ahmadinejad, he too is a member of the Shi'a branch of Islam, that rejects the first three Sunni caliphs and regards Ali, the fourth caliph, as Muhammad's first true successor.

He is Ahmadinejad's architect of the Caliphat, charged with the careful planning and realization of the global Dar-al-Islam, the time when Islam has subjugated the whole world, the time when Islam will be 'tolerant' for there will be none left to oppose or differ.

Born in 1954, it is an eerie irony, that he was brought up and educated in the 'Vaterland' ; only after  completing his major in Mechanical Engineering and after founding the "Islamische Gemeinschaft in Clausthal e.V." (Clausthal is an hour's drive from Hannover, Germany) as well as other unspecified 'political activism', did he move his wife and three children back to his native home, the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Apart from bringing about the global Dar-al-Islam, his passion and academic work is dedicated to the revision of the Holocaust 'Myth'. Ramin was the one who initiated the idea of the "relocation of Israel" and also the idea, that "Holocaust is a myth". Ahmadinejad was just the messenger.

He himself accepted the full responsibility of this action. In an interview with the Financial Times (German version), Ramin stated that he has also initiated the "Holocaust commission" and that he is the founder of the Conference on Holocaust in Tehran.

His logic is as simple as it is evil: Should his committee determine that indeed 6 million Jews had been killed by the Nazis, then another committee must be assembled and determine a just punishment for Germany, which, oh quelle surprise, must include the transfer of German territory so as to establish a Jewish State.

Should it however establish, that Holocaust was a 'Myth', Ramin would have successfully vilified the Jews and exonerated the Nazis. He would then hope to re-open the debate questioning the legality of the State of Israel and bring him one step closer to return Israel's territories to Arab rule. Destruction of Israel is only the last resort option. Much preferred is to usurp Israel 'peacefully', and hand control over to Arab leaders. I wonder what he'd call the new nation...

Having first coached his eager pupil Ahmadinejad, Ramin later praised the President for having voiced his doubts over the Holocaust and the need for relocating the Jews to Europe if Europeans really did the massacre during the Second World War. Ramin then suggested publicly that Ahmadinejad establish a committee for clarifying the "real extent" of the Holocaust.

To those, who criticize Ramin and his government's position on denying the Holocaust, and the serial murders of Iranian intellectuals by the Ministry of Intelligence, he responds:

"The Islamic Revolution has already shaken the world and [...] the unexpected epidemics such as the Asian Flu and AIDS [are] emerging [...] The world [is] too envious to witness the success of Iran’s young generation."

To all of you, who reflexively dismiss these clearly stated goals as hype and hysteria, I say, it is with historical curiosity and fascination, that I appreciate your stance, for it allows me to time-travel some 70-75 years into the past and experience first hand what it must have been like for those, who saw the writing on the wall.

I am much more concerned about Ramin than about 'Thug-in-Chief' Ahmadinejad. After all, thanks to the President's forthrightness, Iran has managed to mobilize the whole world against itself in just 6 months.

Mohammad-Ali Ramin appears moderate, calm and reasonable. Yet his views are the same that led without fail to the biggest atrocities and genocidal crimes committed by man-kind. My translation of a short passage from a German interview in June 2004, well before the election of extremist Ahmadinejad, shows why this soft-spoken ideology always ends in disaster:

"We have never claimed to be a democratic system fashioned after the Western model, nor that we even seek to establish one. We don't believe that Western democracies are the ideal governing system, but believe that other people ["Völker"] with different cultures are able to establish better systems which are truly governed by the people and much more humane ["menschlicher"]. We don't want a system where people like George Bush can be elected as their leader, but instead want a system where the selection is ensured by reasonable and wise individuals."

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Why We Fight

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Then there's this:

KARACHI, Pakistan — Praying in Pakistan has not been easy for Mesut Kacmaz, a Muslim teacher from Turkey.

He tried the mosque near his house, but it had Israeli and Danish flags painted on the floor for people to step on. The mosque near where he works warned him never to return wearing a tie. Pakistanis everywhere assume he is not Muslim because he has no beard.

“Kill, fight, shoot,” Mr. Kacmaz said. “This is a misinterpretation of Islam.”

But that view is common in Pakistan, a frontier land for the future of Islam, where schools, nourished by Saudi and American money dating back to the 1980s, have spread Islamic radicalism through the poorest parts of society. With a literacy rate of just 50 percent and a public school system near collapse, the country is particularly vulnerable.......

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Oh, yes.... you're right 12th.... the Mahdi Army, those are the ones who helped Saddam , Iran and al qaeda attack the twin towers..... got it.

It's all clear to me now.

[the12thinfidel]

Did you also notice the casualty figures for the Mahdi Mooks are 463 since March 25? Was that in the NYT's or were just the US losses reported? Quagmire?

"The Mahdi Army has taken heavy casualties in Sadr City since the fighting broke out on March 25. According to US and Iraqi reports compiled by The Long War Journal, 463 Mahdi Army fighters have been killed in and around Sadr City. These numbers do not include Mahdi Army fighters who may have died after receiving wounds during the fighting."

Are you still harping on the taking of Baghdad in 3 weeks vs the 20K predicted body bags from the dem 'experts' isn't worth a congratulation speech from the Prez?

Here's another reason you have sooooooo many problems with Conservatives, Iraq and the war on islamofacist slime:

Liberal Math explains most Liberal Pathologies:
Losing=Winning
Feelings=Facts
Style=Substance
Intentions=Results

Notice they try to EQUATE EXACT OPPOSITES (Losing=Winning). Notice they try to pair the changeable with the immutable (Feelings=Facts, Style=Substance). Lastly they try to gloss over their failures by saying there are NO ABSOLUTES (Intentions=Results). Being a Liberal is HARD WORK. Living up to your prejudices & pathologies while suffering from addiction must be EXHAUSTING!

Take a break, goeslibdansing! You have to rest up for the riots in Denver while the world continues to evolve, in spite of your handwringing nonsense.

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So the major combat operations in Iraq are going to end..... or increase...... uhhhhh...... but it's all good whether its 2003 or 2008......

major combat operations have ended...... started...... ended...... started....... surge....... draw down....... stop draw down....... surge.......  prevailed....... prevailed......

[the12thinfidel]

I shouldn't have bothered to get your opinion on illegal strikes. (You're probably still supportng the air traffic controllers to get their jobs back.) What a Maroon, as Bugs would say....but at least your brain hasn't worn out from thinking past "republican's always wrong, unions always right".

Here's some more news from Iraq that has missed the NYT's again. The 'flypaper' barrier is working in Sadr City, and Mookie's Mahdi's are dropping like said flys.

"The apparent respite in yesterday's fighting was illusionary as US forces killed an additional 27 Mahdi Army fighters and a senior Special Groups leader during a series of engagements in the afternoon in Sadr City. One of the larger clashes occurred as US force were attacked while constructing the barrier that divides the southern portion of Sadr city where US and Iraqi troops have established a foothold.

The fighting began just before noon as Mahdi Army fighters attacked US troops with rocket propelled grenades and small arms fire as they were building the concrete security barrier in Sadr City. US soldiers responded and killed three Mahdi fighters. Ten minutes later, US troops killed seven Mahdi Army fighters as they attacked the soldiers with mortars and machine guns. No US casualties were reported killed in either incident.

US troops killed another 17 Mahdi Army fighters in a series of engagements throughout the day as they transported weapons, set up rockets for launching, planted roadside bombs, and attacked US troops in Sadr City.

Coalition Special Forces also conducted a daylight strike today inside Sadr City. A Coalition airstrike targeted a "known Iranian-sponsored senior Special Groups leader" inside Sadr City this afternoon Baghdad time. "According to our operational reports the 'Special Groups leader' ... was killed," Multinational Forces Iraq responded in an email inquiry by The Long War Journal. The Special Groups are Iranian-trained, financed, and armed elements of the Mahdi Army.

The Mahdi Army has taken heavy casualties in Sadr City since the fighting broke out on March 25. According to US and Iraqi reports compiled by The Long War Journal, 463 Mahdi Army fighters have been killed in and around Sadr City. These numbers do not include Mahdi Army fighters who may have died after receiving wounds during the fighting.

A buildup in Sadr City

The US and Iraqi military have rapidly built up their forces in and around Sadr City over the past several weeks. Two Iraqi Army brigades and elements from an Iraqi armored brigade and an Iraqi National Police brigade, along with eight US Army battalions have been reported in military press releases to be operating inside Sadr City over the past several weeks. In early April, only two US Army battalions, and Iraqi Army brigade, and elements from an Iraqi National Police brigade were known to be operating inside Sadr City.

A US Army brigade, three Iraqi National Police brigades, and an Iraqi Army brigade are also operating in the neighborhoods adjacent to Sadr City. This unprecedented buildup of forces indicates the Iraqi government and the US military are serious about advancing into Sadr City beyond the southern third of the district being hemmed in by the security barriers being erected."

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Without the influence of Unions the American worker would have long ago been a simple slave to Corporations.

Organized labor is the only voice the workers have to challenge exploitation. Modern Republicanism in this context is nothing more than continuation of anti-labor, pro-corporate governance that dates back to at least the 19th Century.

The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire in New York City on March 25, 1911, was the largest industrial disaster in the history of the city of New York, causing the death of 148 garment workers who either died from the fire or jumped to their deaths. It was the worst workplace disaster in New York City until September 11th, 2001. The fire led to legislation requiring improved factory safety standards and helped spur the growth of the International Ladies' Garment Workers' Union, which fought for better working conditions for sweatshop workers in that industry. The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Building, also known as the Asch Building and as the Brown Building, survives and was named a National Historic Landmark.

The company employed approximately 500 workers, mostly young immigrant women from different places in Germany, Italy and Eastern Europe. Some of the women were as young as twelve or thirteen and worked fourteen-hour shifts during a 60-hour to 72-hour workweek. According to Pauline Newman, a worker at the factory, the average wage for employees in the factory was six to seven dollars a week.

The Triangle Shirtwaist Company had already become well-known outside the garment industry by 1911: the massive strike by women's shirtwaist makers in 1909, known as the Uprising of 20,000, began with a spontaneous walkout at the Triangle Company.

What is modern Republican Labor policy other than finding oppotunities to export work to cheap exploitable environments and labor conditions, and import cheap labor? What is it but a constant searching for the good-old-days when "The Boss" was the local master, and all workers his slaves?

Laissez Faire global trade policies with no social conscience...... does a Republican export Labor and Environmental standards along with its outsourcing? Its NAFTA, CAFTA..... simple global kleptocracy? Of course not.

Modern Republicanism represents the thinking of the finest minds from the 19th Century. 

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[the12thinfidel]

Actually, it's the UAW that requires the Teamsters must haul car accessories to the finished assembly area, rather than allow accessories to be manufactured on site....but that's just a detail in cost efficiency.
They beat the evil Corporation that time.

In the meantime, the ILWU made news today, on Law Day surprisingly:

SAN FRANCISCO -- An arbitrator Wednesday ordered for the second time in a week that the International Longshore and Warehouse Union must tell its members to report for work Thursday despite scheduled protests against the Iraq war along the Pacific Coast, including San Francisco.

During a phone hearing with union representatives and officials with the Pacific Maritime Association this morning, Coast Arbitrator John Kagel announced the order.

According to Kagel's proceedings, he previously ordered the union on April 24 to inform its locals and individual members that they must work a normal day Thursday.

The Maritime Association, who employs the port workers, approached Kagel again because of information that came to light about what the union was reportedly telling its members.

"It was clear to us today that the ILWU is saying one thing and doing another," said association spokesman Steve Getzug.

Despite the fact that the union previously said participating in the protests was voluntary, Getzug said there was "increasing information that the union is telling union members not to show up for work."

But, according to Kagel, "the union maintains that the information received by the employers (the Pacific Maritime Association) is hearsay and thus not to be credited."

"The reason why the Pacific Maritime Association has taken the steps ahead of tomorrow is because any disruption on the water is unacceptable," said Getzug. He added that "thousands of jobs are affected beyond the waterfront."

One of many protests planned for Thursday in California, Oregon and Washington will be in San Francisco, where workers are scheduled to meet at the local union office at 10 a.m. before marching along Embarcadero to Justin Herman Plaza for a noon rally. Scheduled speakers include Danny Glover, Cindy Sheehan and Daniel Ellsberg.

Clarence Thomas, an executive board member of San Francisco-based International Longshore and Warehouse Union Local 10 said, "This is an historic event, the first time in recent memory American workers have stopped work to stop a war." ......

Today's action, which essentially shut down all major ports along the coast, culminates a series of events that began when ILWU members passed a resolution opposing the U.S. war in Iraq. After seeking permission under contract rules to stop work during the day shift on May 1st, ILWU leaders later retracted their request, and claimed that any decision not to work on May 1st would be made by individual workers.

Yet the facts show a coordinated effort by the Union to shut down West Coast ports. The ILWU has publicized, through its website and newsletter, plans for a coordinated protest. The president of the coast's largest longshore local yesterday sent a recorded message to members that stated: "I'm calling to let you know the entire longshore division will not work the day-side on Thursday, May 1st." .......

I personally would call it treason, but you might opt for a milder 'sedition'. Either way, the average ILWU fully acredited worker makes $136k/yr. It would seem that shutting down all the ports from San Diego to Seattle was against their interest and, beside being illegal, against America's interest. What's your view?

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Oh yeah..... the American Worker is the problem.....

Detroit Iron 

[the12thinfidel]

"Social Security is on life support" Not addressed by any Congresscritters yet, just punt it down the road since the chosen 535 don't contribute to SS anyway.

Regarding some causes of the Big Three 'corporate greed', let's spread the blame to the Dem unions too, you know, the 'D' lever pullers...'but how could that be' you ask? From the Detroit News:
They aren't built this way in the U.S.....and the UAW isn't in Brazil, either. This is an interesting video of the Ford plant in Camacari, Brazil

http://info.detnews.com/video/index.cfm?id=1189

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 A few words to ponder:

"Am I the only guy in this country who's fed up with what's happening?" Iacocca writes. "Where the hell is our outrage? We should be screaming bloody murder. We've got a gang of clueless bozos steering our ship of state right over a cliff, we've got corporate gangsters stealing us blind, and we can't even clean up after a hurricane much less build a hybrid car. But instead of getting mad, everyone sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say, 'Stay the course.' "

"Swagger isn't courage. Tough talk isn't courage. Courage in the twenty-first century doesn't mean posturing and bravado. Courage is a commitment to sit down at the negotiating table and talk." 

  "Thanks to our first MBA President, we've got the largest deficit in history, Social Security is on life support, and we've run up a half-a-trillion-dollar price tag (so far) in Iraq. And that's just for starters."

 "Name me an industry leader who is thinking creatively about how we can restore our competitive edge in manufacturing," he writes. "Who would have believed that there could ever be a time when 'the Big Three' referred to Japanese car companies?"

Lee Iacocca, 2007 

I like how he points to the isidious results of modern Republicanism in Corporate America as well...... ambition and greed over talent, lack of imagination and intellect, ideological inbreeding....... the Republican Party is indeed ENRON.

[the12thinfidel]

The actual word used was 'humans', but it was funny. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Republicans!

[the12thinfidel]

...and your 'big' solution is to NOT drill in ANWR, ever. (Bush for it, we's agin it!)

Perhaps you can mull over a TL Friedman quote showing where he's going with this:

Eco-journalism: “I want to rename ‘green.’ I want to rename it geostrategic, geoeconomic, capitalistic and patriotic. I want to do that because I think that living, working, designing, manufacturing and projecting America in a green way can be the basis of a new unifying political movement for the 21st century. A redefined, broader and more muscular green ideology is not meant to trump the traditional Republican and Democratic agendas but rather to bridge them when it comes to addressing the three major issues facing every American today: jobs, temperature and terrorism.” —New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman

Yep, no top three concern for drilling the oil in ANWR or anywhere as a major issue, but if we were just 'greener...' and did with less, it will never be an issue! Banning thermostats will solve the temperature issue the same way!
(I also suspect the 'jobs' concern was just his personal problem at the NYT.)

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Hey bub..... the Republicans have had it all their way for 7 years or more...... their big solution is to drill in Anwar..... This is what happens when the village idiots are in charge.

Dubya 

The crown jewel of modern Republicanism...... 

[the12thinfidel]

T.L.Friedman is one of the reasons the NYT has been downgraded to a BBB credit rating. Some pundits think it's because the public has cut back on having birds as pets, others are leaning towards blaming the 100 journalists who are to be canned shortly and betting Friedman is on the short list.

Friedman ignores the dem inaction on energy, says we need to raise taxes on oil and give credits to the solar/wind alternate lifeforms, and then blames Bush... to 'prove' his points. Wasn't that last years article? And the year before?

Things have gotten so bad, a new kind of therapy has sprouted up to keep people from going nuts over the environment.

It’s called “eco-therapy” or “eco-psychology.” The time on the couch isn’t spent delving into a patient’s childhood to find the source of misery. Instead, it looks at how much time a person spends in nature, the person’s carbon footprint and what the individual is doing to save the planet.

And the prescribed treatment may be as simple as a dose of recycling or — you guessed it — hugging a tree.

Sound like a joke? Ecopsychology, popularized in the early 1990s by social critic Theodore Roszak ('social critic' as in counter culture advocate history prof. at CSU-Hayward) , is being taught in colleges and universities across the country, including at Harvard Medical School.

It might surprise you to learn that there’s actually some criticism of this technique:

"But some health care professionals say eco-therapy is more of the latest in a line of money-making gimmicks targeted at the environmentally conscious, an industry estimated by the green group Lifestyles of Health and Sustainability Association at $228 million a year, and growing.

Melissa Pickett, an eco-therapist in Santa Fe, N.M., who says she treats dozens of patients a month, said sometimes she has to tell extreme greenies to chill out for their own good. “The global warming craze will cause your clients to go into extremism fueled by fear,” she says."

I wouldn't be surprised to see San Fran Nan is a patient in this program. Have you signed up yet, goescarbondan?

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No energy policy despite Cheney's secret sessions with energy mogols 7 years ago...... greed as policy? You bet your life!

But here’s what’s scary: our problem is so much worse than you think. We have no energy strategy. If you are going to use tax policy to shape energy strategy then you want to raise taxes on the things you want to discourage — gasoline consumption and gas-guzzling cars — and you want to lower taxes on the things you want to encourage — new, renewable energy technologies. We are doing just the opposite.

Few Americans know it, but for almost a year now, Congress has been bickering over whether and how to renew the investment tax credit to stimulate investment in solar energy and the production tax credit to encourage investment in wind energy. The bickering has been so poisonous that when Congress passed the 2007 energy bill last December, it failed to extend any stimulus for wind and solar energy production. Oil and gas kept all their credits, but those for wind and solar have been left to expire this December. I am not making this up. At a time when we should be throwing everything into clean power innovation, we are squabbling over pennies.

These credits are critical because they ensure that if oil prices slip back down again — which often happens — investments in wind and solar would still be profitable. That’s how you launch a new energy technology and help it achieve scale, so it can compete without subsidies.

The Democrats wanted the wind and solar credits to be paid for by taking away tax credits from the oil industry. President Bush said he would veto that. Neither side would back down, and Mr. Bush — showing not one iota of leadership — refused to get all the adults together in a room and work out a compromise. Stalemate. Meanwhile, Germany has a 20-year solar incentive program; Japan 12 years. Ours, at best, run two years......

........While all the presidential candidates were railing about lost manufacturing jobs in Ohio, no one noticed that America’s premier solar company, First Solar, from Toledo, Ohio, was opening its newest factory in the former East Germany — 540 high-paying engineering jobs — because Germany has created a booming solar market and America has not.

In 1997, said Resch, America was the leader in solar energy technology, with 40 percent of global solar production. “Last year, we were less than 8 percent, and even most of that was manufacturing for overseas markets.”

Dumb as We Wanna Be

[the12thinfidel]

Evidence? That 'Thora Flux Pullip slideshow' link could be used as evidence in a competency hearing! Good luck, take your meds, hope for a lenient judge.

[Ghost Dansing]

Hmmmmm.... did you have evidence otherwise? link

[the12thinfidel]

That May '06 link was interesting all the way into 20 seconds when the word 'Illuminati' was mentioned. Click.

Sherman said it best:

“I hate newspapermen. They come into camp and pick up their camp rumors and print them as facts. I regard them as spies, which, in truth, they are. If I killed them all there would be news from Hell before breakfast.”

You really should avoid that kind of 'information' goesdancing, it will rot your brain, and the next thing you know you'll be saying things like: "incompetent Republican administration, and the incompetent, ideologically inbred political party from which it spawned" Oh wait, it's too late... Nevermind.

[Ghost Dansing]

Sorry..... not a Marxist..... not that you'd know one if it bit you in the backside.

You've spent too many years conflating Liberalism with leftest extremist points of view, because as a rightist, Liberalism and Communism are equally irksome to you.

So, you are actually unable to differentiate the two, and certainly don't know when a rightist Republican administration is stripping away your Liberty..... because you drank the kool aid.

The Republican Party has two classes..... the Manipulators, and those who they manipulate. America hasn't had a serious flirtation with Communist (Darwinian Marxist or otherwise) since the Great Depression.....

On the other hand: 

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[the12thinfidel]

You're probably not much more impressed with the proletariat than Karl Marx was....

Yep, let someone else find and get the oil and build refineries to process it, because we're morally superior (stupid) and need a two year environmental study? (Nanny P's dem solution to high gas prices is.... what, ride a bike to work? Guess what happens to costs at the pump by raising taxes on the evil oil companies.)

“The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.” Winston Churchill

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Oh those mean old environmentalists did it..... there 'ya go. Our CEO "Masters of the Universe" can't do anything without trashing the environment and exploiting the working people...... how impressed am I?

[the12thinfidel]

5000' feet down in the Atlantic, lies the ancient plants and pools of dinosaurs.
Yep, must be where it comes from...different grades of dinosaurs and plants....some more sulferic, some less so, some turned into shale. Nice fossil myth from the 1800's, but takes a bit of faith these days.

As far as cheap oil is concerned, No drilling allowed where oil is tends to adjust your 'greedy sombrero' a bit tighter. The liberal prioritys are the pristine view in Santa Barbara, along with the ecofreak liberal 'concerns' regarding caribou in ANWR vs national resources needed....dems answer: do with less=problem over, eyes closed! (If ANWR's square miles were factored into the size of a football field, the oil site would be the size of a postage stamp.)

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Oh.... go ahead and drill "anywhere"..... maybe your back yard..... just not Anwar..... Anwar is just a symbolic piece for a bunch of rightist corporatists.

To think you can base expanding global energy requirements on plants and wildlife that was smooshed and compressed millions of years ago is absurd.

Good luck with that.....

Why don't our big bad "oil men" get us some cheap oil? All sombrero and no cattle?

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[the12thinfidel]

Here's some more colorful symbolic herring for you.

That 'link' from a 2006 viewpoint is loaded with errors, not the least of which is that 'oil is running out'. (Two very recent discoverys off the coast of Brazil have tested to show more oil there than Saudi Arabia has, and the oil shale in NDak is enough for a hundred years of current US usage.)

You recall, of course, that Nanny Pelosi campaigned in 2006 that the dems had a solution to high gas prices...then at an average of $2.56/gal. A dollar higher now, and the only solution we hear from the dem wiz's is "cut back on usage, more taxes on the Big Oil companies, and do with less for the planets good". Brilliant.

As to drilling in ANWR will not touch the energy issue, if you are correct, then we shouldn't bother drilling anywhere. Brilliant. (Are you aware that the estimated reserves in ANWR are over two years worth of US oil usage if we only got it from there? Big drop in the bucket.

Even the founder of Greenpeace says we need to construct more Nuclear power facilities, but where is the dem support for that one? Zero. Maybe that's why the French get 80% of their electricity from nuclear sources and think we're nuts.

The ecochondriacs abetted by the likes of Senator Grassley have taken subsistence crops and made them part of the energy market. No good can come of that, only vast human misery. It's the oldest conservative lesson: The real problem isn't the "problem" but the Big Government Solution to it is the problem.

“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclination, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” —John Adams

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Doesn't matter if Republicans win...... they're still wrong ideologically and will eventually turn America into a third-world petty kleptocracy if unchecked...... whether or not the majority of the American People see this in time is the real issue.

Drilling in Anwar doesn't even touch the energy issue...... it is a meaningless symbolic gesture trying to place the blame for 40 years of poor energy policy on environmentalists.

It's called a red herring issue 12th.

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[the12thinfidel]

Let's take a look at historical precedent, from the Charlotte Observer editorial:

"The first Republican to win a presidential election was Abraham Lincoln. Since that initial success, the GOP has won 23 presidential elections compared to just 14 for the Democrats.

Since the Civil War only four Democrats -- Jimmy Carter, Lyndon Johnson, Franklin Roosevelt and Samuel Tilden -- have won a majority of the popular vote. (Tilden in 1876, lost the Electoral College vote and never became president.)

It has been 32 years since a Democrat won a majority of the popular vote. The last to do so was Carter, who won a whopping 50.1 percent of the votes in 1976. He defeated Republican incumbent Gerald Ford, the man who pardoned Richard Nixon and carried the burden of Watergate and the Vietnam War into the election.

Obviously, 1976 was not a good year to be a Republican. Nixon's disgraceful resignation and reputation for deceit and corruption fatally wounded the Republican presidential ticket. But even with such enormous advantages on his side, Carter barely eked out a majority. Carter's once sizeable lead in the polls dwindled as election day drew near, so much so that some observers believe that had the election taken place a couple of weeks later, Ford might have prevailed.

Like the 1976 contest, all conditions point toward an easy Democratic victory this November. George W. Bush, the Republican incumbent, suffers from abysmal approval ratings -- below 30 percent in some polls. The economy is weak and appears to be entering a recession. And the presumptive Republican nominee, John McCain, while certainly something of a maverick, is quite close to the president on the one issue causing him the most damage -- the war in Iraq.

Yet right now in a hypothetical head-to-head match-up, McCain and Obama appear to be in a dead heat. A recent USA Today/Gallup poll shows Obama leading by 3 points; the latest Rasmussen tracking poll shows McCain up by 3. A McCain-Clinton match-up is also too close to call at this point. If this is a Democratic year, one wonders what a Republican year would look like.

The fact is Democrats historically have struggled to win the White House and have found ways to lose contests that presumably they should have won. Since Lincoln, Americans have tended to see the presidency as primarily a Republican institution. It's not that Democrats cannot win, but they seem to have more negative voter assumptions to overcome."

I personally have no illusions regarding McCain's liberal short-comings, but he is the only one of the three that is not anti-semitic, will appoint originalist Supreme Court judges, and intends to win the conflict with the islamist crazies.

The greater issue is the Congress that allows no energy drilling in the Gulf (or ANWR-Anywhere), ignores Cuban/Chi-com drilling in international waters off Florida, while subsidizing food production for ethanol. The 'pocketbook' voters are going to have big problems with that 'alternate theory' very shortly, and will 'cut back' on the dems 'do with less' re-election delemmas by November.

[Ghost Dansing]

hehehe....... that's my favorite piece of vitriolic rhetoric...... however I do think the Republicans are going to have an uphill battle trying to convince the majority of Americans that their governance has been good and effective. I pretty much see foreign and domestic failures from sea to shining sea and beyond, and paying $4 per gallon for milk and gasoline won't impress the "pocket book" voters that once liked Republican laissez faire economic rhetoric.

The fact is, even if McCain wins it represents a loss to the "movement conservative" Bushy base...... this is the guy that the Republicans trashed last time around, and his governance will represent a move back to the center of the political spectrum.

[the12thinfidel]

Hang in there, (as they say) goespolitickingdan, 'bitter gun totin' bible thumpin' small town Americans' have just about had it with your partys socialist schemes, so I wouldn't count your votes yet before they are caste for those demo chickens either....

(Is that your standard F-1 key post: "incompetent Republican administration, and the incompetent, ideologically inbred political party from which it spawned"?)
You have a way with words, which will add to the festivities in Denver this August.

[Ghost Dansing]

Well the American People are just about ready to run out of patience for this incompetent Republican administration, and the incompetent, ideologically inbred political party from which it spawned....

[the12thinfidel]

Things sometimes happen very fast....years/seconds, all relative as time chugs/zips along....
On the other hand, re-inlistments of the all volunteer military is steady to high,
positive activity in the Iraq government is in the right direction. Patience is a virtue.

http://leenks.com/link108221.html

[Ghost Dansing]

Hi Mac..... nice hearing from you again. 12th. You are correct in your assessment of what McCain was actually saying.

The reason the American People are soured on the notion of 100 years in Iraq is based in the fact that (and you can pick one or both), the war itself was misguided from a strategic point of view and the war was mishandled from a strategic point of view (tactically we prevail though long-term counterinsurgency in urban environments is not an American forte).

Add to this the very conservative opinion reflected in a portion of the body politic (the ones Dubya appealed to in 2000) that is essentially isolationist when it comes to American military footprints abroad (even in Europe and Japan) and you have the reason upon which the "100 years" theme is going strike a sour note with the body politic.

The jury remains "out" in a very serious way regarding whether or not long term American troop presence in Iraq is going to promote American or Western security, or undermine it.

If the deployments continue to erode military readiness overall, the military leadership will eventually mutiny. We've seen some signs of that lack of confidence in modern Republicanism already.

[mac Brachman]

FT editorial 22 April 2008

Hamas and peace (sic: that is the actual title of this "leader" (the British term for editorial).)
Published: April 21 2008 19:06 | Last updated: April 21 2008 19:06
Jimmy Carter, the former US president and Nobel Peace Prize-winner, has probably done more to secure Israel’s future than any man alive, as the broker of its breakthrough Camp David peace deal with Egypt in 1979. He is surely right that prospects for peace between Israel and the Palestinians have “regressed” since the Annapolis conference last November, when both sides undertook to negotiate a resolution to the conflict by the end of this year.

Which is why he is also right to have held two long talks last week with Khaled Meshal, the most influential leader of Israel’s most resolute and dangerous enemy: Hamas.

EDITOR’S CHOICE
Palestinian toll rises after day of violence - Apr-17

Carter to meet Hamas officials - Apr-16

Israeli civil defence drill raises tension - Apr-08

Israel plans homes in West Bank - Mar-31

Israel bids to revive peace talks with Syria - Mar-29

Palestinian fund breaks the mould - Mar-24

The Damascus talks, which led the Israeli government to snub and the US administration to decry Mr Carter, have elicited from the Islamist group its clearest indication that it could “live as a neighbour next door in peace” with Israel, provided Palestinians get their independent state on all the territories seized by Israel in the 1967 six day war.

Hamas, which won a stunning election victory against its nationalist rivals Fatah in 2006, had previously endorsed talks on the Arab League plan offering Israel full peace in return for total withdrawal from captured Arab land. Israel did not accept that offer and – with US backing and international acquiescence – moved to strangle Hamas.

The elected Hamas government faced sanctions and unrealistic demands, followed by siege after the power struggle with President Mahmoud Abbas led to Hamas’ bloody takeover of Gaza last June, and the defeat of Fatah warlords armed by the US and incited by Israel.

Mr Carter’s perception, shared by two thirds of Israelis, is that Israel cannot make war on half the Palestinian people and expect to make peace with the other half; if there is ever going to be a solution to this conflict, Hamas has to be part of it.

The Islamists must, of course, accept the existence of the Israeli state, but as the result of an agreed two-states solution; the demand that Hamas should first accept an Israel in a constant state of expansion is unreal and unjustified.

Mr Abbas has met all Israeli and US preconditions – and still they have undermined him. Within days of Annapolis Israel pressed ahead with more Jewish settlement on occupied land. The Palestinian president has nothing to show for his policy of non-violent engagement.

As a precondition for entering talks, nonetheless, Hamas must declare a ceasefire – which Israel must reciprocate – and an end to all attacks on civilians. The policy of isolating the Islamists is destructive and myopic. But there is no need to take Hamas at its ambiguous word.

This editorial is so biased and ludicrous in its general thrust and in all of its specifics that it demands a detailed response; I hope to provide one at a time in the near future. It is disheartening to say the least that the FT editorial board is so filled with Hamas apologists. Please see my earlier posts on this thread about the abhorrent FT editorial of 3/7/08, and again how Israel is apportioned over 90% of the blame while Hamas, a terrorist organization with a charter explicitly calling for the VIOLENT eradication of Israel and maintaining a policy, DOWN TO ITS PROGRAMMING FOR PALESTINIAN PRESCHOOL CHILDREN, of dehumanizing Jews ("Sons of Pigs and Apes") and calling for their UNIVERSAL destruction. Notice once again that the FT editorial board ignores and treats as insignificant the UN Charter for Israel in 1947, saying that Hamas only "has" to recognize Israel's existence as part of a final peace accord, where, of course, Israel (the victor in war of Arab aggression against it in 1967) makes virtually all the concessions.

It is too late and I am too tired to refute this malicious, false (e.g., 2/3 of Israelis DO NOT endorse peace at any price, regardless of what the FT editors in their comfy London offices may think) , and hideous piece of Jew-hatred point-by-point. I need only say that it confirms the Jimmuh Cawtuh theory of diplomatic action and how-to-win-a-Nobel-prize: 1) reward the actions of thuggish, bigoted, and murderous sociopaths, 2) declare them "essential" for a peace agreement once you've thus legitimized them, 3) acquiesce in and encourage the demonization of the flawed but functioning pluralist democracy whose EXISTENCE is under siege (Israel), and finally 4) win Nobel prizes and accolades from European biens pensants (the expression is French, GD; it means "well thinking" and is used at a term of derision for fashionable received opinion), the Left that reflexively hates Western democracies (the US above all), and the salon-intellectual set in Berkeley, the Upper W Side of Manhattan, and other centers of Haute thinking.

It's late and I must get to bed; I have to work in the morning. GD, thanks for "missing" me; I had a Bert Lahr moment when I read this (as the Cowardly Lion in the 1939 film "The Wizard of Oz": after being awarded a medal for courage in vanquishing wicked witches by the Wizard (Frank Morgan), Lahr, in his inimitable Brooklyn accent, shrinks shyly away, saying, "Aw shucks, I'm speechless!") 12th: thanks for the Passover wishes. Just thinking about this makes me angry at the FT's latest fusillade directed at Israel, and at Jimmuh Cawtuh: not enough to legitimize murdering sociopaths; they choose to do it over Passover. The FT editorial board and Jimmuh Cawtuh have sunk even lower than usual, even for them. Both of you: I agree about missing Kenny and Alexandra; as Simon and Garfunkel sang so many years ago about "Joltin' Joe" DiMaggio: Where have you gone, Kenny and Alexandra? We posters on this blog turn our lonely eyes to you. Please don't say you've left and gone away, hey hey hey. Shalom, Mac Brachman

[the12thinfidel]

A Cliff May quote for perspective:
"A growing number of Democrats have falsely accused Sen. John McCain of “promising” 100 years of war in Iraq. In fact, McCain’s point was that the presence of American forces promotes stability. That’s been the case in Europe and Asia where Americans have been stationed for more than half a century. It’s been true in the Balkans since the 1990s when President Clinton sent troops there. America’s military plays a beneficial role when it eliminates America’s enemies; it does so also when it stays on to prevent those enemies from reemerging.

But there is a hard truth that McCain did not state: A hundred years from now Americans might still be fighting militant Islamists in Iraq and other places. What could be worse than that? A hundred years from now America and the West could have been defeated by militant Islamists."

So, I vote for islamists losing. Not for a 10 year hudna, but forever.

[Ghost Dansing]

So there's not going to be a Liberal Democracy in Iraq after all? Go figure.....

February 2003, PBS 

MARGARET WARNER: Last night, Pres. Bush laid out his argument that a post-Saddam Iraq could become a flourishing democracy.

PRES. GEORGE W. BUSH: There was a time when many said that the cultures of Japan and Germany were incapable of sustaining democratic values. Well, they were wrong. Some say the same of Iraq today. They are mistaken. (Applause) The nation of Iraq, with its proud heritage, abundant resources and skilled and educated people, is fully capable of moving toward democracy and living in freedom. (Applause)

MARGARET WARNER: The president further asserted that a democratic Iraq could transform the entire region in a similar way.

PRES. GEORGE W. BUSH: There are hopeful signs of the desire for freedom in the Middle East. Arab intellectuals have called on Arab governments to address the freedom gap, so their peoples can fully share in the progress of our times. From Morocco to Bahrain and beyond, nations are taking genuine steps toward political reform. A new regime in Iraq would serve as a dramatic and inspiring example of freedom for other nations in the region. (Applause) It is presumptuous and insulting to suggest that a whole region of the world, or the one-fifth of humanity that is Muslim, is somehow untouched by the most basic aspirations of life.

[the12thinfidel]

More (or less) Mookie as of today (Not in the NYT's):

The following is a translation by Iraqi-American Haider Ajina from Nida'a al Rafidain News published on April 17, 2008:

Iraq’s Josef Al-Sadr says that Muqtada Al- Sadr has tainted Our Family Reputation;
--We will deal with him internally.

Alseyed Josef Alsadar a member of the honored Sadar family wrote a letter to Alrafedain news (Nida'a al Rafidain News) which said: "Muqtada al-Sadr has tainted the reputation of this respected family, and the family disowns Muqtada. We are as innocent of him as the wolf is of the blood of Josef (Biblical (Old Testament I believe) and Koranic reference). The family is working on ways to discipline him with in the family. Consultations for this are held at the highest level to come up with punishments for its rogue son.

These courageous and dangerous statements come, for the fist time, from a member of the Sadar family. Alseyed Josef al-Sadr is considered to be a member of the family with deep faith who is rarely public. It appears he has broken his silence to show the truth before it is to late.

Al-rafidain has published this news after it consulted with Josef Alsadar, and expressed its concern that publishing his letter may threaten his life or safety.

The news agency reminded him of the assassination of Said Riadh Alnoori some days earlier. He was assassinated after he wrote Muqtada a letter asking him to dissolve the Mehdi Army. Alseyed Josef insisted we publish his letter against all threats.
Haider Ajina comments on the recent developments:

A number of religious leaders and leading figures have stepped out of a long standing tradition of non confrontation with other religious leaders. This tradition is now being challenged. Muqtada was told by a number of Ayatollahs that it is against Islam to take arms against an elected government. The will of the people is to be respected and political change has to happen at the ballet box. This is very encouraging and really not a surprise.

Islam teaches Muslims that it is their duty to speak out and take action to confront wrongdoings. It is time this teaching is put to practice by those who profess to be leaders of the religion. Muslim condemnations of terrorist attacks and bigotry have been heard for some time now. Suicide attacks have also been condemned by a number of Muslim leaders, now it is time to call those who entice violent political change to task.
Regards,
Haider Ajina

You may have a few questions as to the significance of this, goesdemovoting, however, here is a short summary :

"We outsiders, being westerners, are linear, logical thinkers with a highly focused lens. If we had our way, we would have smoked Tater a long time ago and that problem would be solved.
We have to keep realizing that we are dealing with tribal cultures. Kinship is king here. Blood is thicker than water, and Tater milked Dear Olde Dad's status as a religious leader to the max. Eventually he became an embarassment to the max (read bad PR to the Clan) and the Clan had to get him out.

The same applies to Afghanistan, which is tribal to the n-th power. We are not going to be able to wave our Democracy Magic Wand™ and expect the whole thing to be roses and group hugs. To have a successful strategy and outcome, you must crawl into the tribal heads and understand how they think. Then you politic, do good deeds, appeal to reason, bribe, and kill, as appropriate. There is no one-fits-all solution."

Think about it. (Don't tell Harry Reid)

[Ghost Dansing]

Oh..... I understand what you're saying..... Dream on. You're hanging your hat heavily on a cease fire between the central government and Mookie that was brokered (where?) in Iran.....

BAGHDAD (AP) - Iraq's prime minister appealed Monday for support from his Arab neighbors, urging them to open embassies and forgive Iraqi debts as his government tries to crack down on Shiite militias in a crucial power struggle.

The appeal came as leaders of the biggest militia - the Mahdi Army of cleric Muqtada al-Sadr - warned more violence could await, even as they criticized the government for allegedly showing little interest in negotiating with them.

With tension rising, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki flew to Kuwait for a meeting Tuesday of Iraq's neighbors to discuss ways they can help Iraq's Shiite-led government as it confronts both Shiite militias and Sunni extremists including al-Qaida in Iraq.....

The direct appeal to Arab heavyweights highlights the regional dilemma posed by Iraq.

Sunni Arabs have a strong stake in keeping Iraq - which is majority Shiite - firmly in the Arab orbit as a buffer against expanding influence by Iran, the largest Shiite nation. But Arab neighbors are still leery of al-Maliki's government and the deep Iranian ties of its main backers.

Al-Maliki is hoping that the ongoing crackdown against Shiite militants - principally al-Sadr's fighters - will allay their fears of Iranian leanings and a bias against his own Sunni population - which long held a privileged position under Saddam Hussein.

But he also pointed the finger at "some nations" he claimed were supporting extremist groups and "inciting strife through the media" - an apparent reference to Arab satellite TV stations based in the Gulf which the leadership here considers hostile to the government.

[the12thinfidel]

Iran winning? Well, 11 days ago: Iran's hardline president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Thursday his country's objective was to destroy what he called corrupt western powers.

"Our objective is to annihilate all corrupt powers that dominate our planet today," said Ahmadinejad.

Not that your NYT's will cast blame on Iran for basicly declaring war on Israel and the US, since their liberal socialist goals and definition of 'corrupt' are similar (ignoring the dogs/pigs/infidel thing for a moment), however it does appear that Iran has a more violent method up their sleeves that won't bode well for NY or anywhere...and keep in mind GWB is a man of his word...Iran will Not be allowed to have nukes. As Iran stirs the pot in Iraq, they are in the rock and hard place area now. That assumption is based on Mookie Sadr's Mahdi Army henchmen have failed in Basra, Sadr has been told by Maliki to desarm his 'militia' or Sadr's out of the government, and the Sunni block has returned to the government to co-opperate in running it. (Iraqi President Jalal Talabani says the main Sunni political bloc will rejoin the Shi'ite-led ruling coalition after quitting the government last year. Mr. Talabani said Sunday that the Sunni bloc has put forward a list of candidates for Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's Cabinet).

Iran doesn't need another loser Shi-ite, and they have told Mookie to leave Iran. The plot thickens, or as you see it goesdancing, the thick plottens.

[Ghost Dansing]

Oh.... I see..... you think Maliki's "success" is a blow to Iran! Iran is backing all sides. It's a win-win-win for Iran!

[Ghost Dansing]

Oh, I agree 12th...... the sum-total of Dubya's strategy has delivered Iraq firmly into the arms of the Islamic Republic of Iran while putting us in the worst possible position to do anything about it.

Republicans handed Iraq to Iran on a silver platter. Congratulations. 

[the12thinfidel]

That goofy link to the poster child for BDS was only one wasted minute out of my day. I thought you might have been linking to Dire Straits singing the Liberal Theme Song...Money for Nothing...
Meanwhile, not in the NYT or WaPo, but as a public service for your short attention span:

April 21, 2008

Iraqi Army soldiers discover large cache with Iranian-marked weapons during Operation Charge of the Knights

Multi-National Division - Southeast PAO
BASRAH – The Iraqi Army discovered a large weapons and munitions cache in a house located in the Al Hyyaniyah area of Basrah April 19.
Soldiers from the 1st Iraqi Army discovered the cache during the search phase of Operation Charge of the Knights. The cache consisted of a large number of weaponry with Iranian markings.
The cache included a 240 mm high-explosive war-head and approximately 160 mortars. Some of which were less than 12 months old.
The cache also contained approximately 25 artillery shells, more than 20 complete improvised explosive devices, large quantities of IED components, several explosively formed projectiles and dozens of grenades and fuses. Also included was more than 20 blocks of plastic explosives, homemade anti-personnel mines packed with ball bearings, hundreds of meters of detonation cord, improvised rocket launching rails, and thousands of rounds of small-arms ammunition.
Operation Charge of the Knights is ongoing with the Iraqi Army working in conjunction with the Iraqi Police to maintain pressure on Special Groups and criminal elements by denying them sanctuaries and safe havens through Basrah and Iraq.
“Operation Charge of the Knights has been an Iraqi planned and executed operation from the very start,” said Lt. Col. Neil Harper, deputy public affairs officer for Multi-National Corps - Iraq. “The Iraqi Army demonstrated their capability to protect the people of Basrah against Special Groups and criminal elements that are ignoring the rule of law.
“The success in finding these large caches was also due in part by numerous tips from concerned local Iraqis. This is another great example of Iraqis dealing with their own issues, and they should be admired for their bravery,” Harper said.

[Ghost Dansing]

I don't want to hear anything about demagogues from Republican supporters. The Republican Party has become a totally rightist influence in American politics, and has put America in dire straits by building its policies on extremist ideology instead of American Liberalism.

link 

[the12thinfidel]

Miles and Coltrane are two musicians that will never be improved upon. Speaking of which, here's a timeless quote for the Obamanauts to mull over:

“A demagogue tries to sound as stupid as his audience so that they will think they are as clever as he is.”—Karl Krauss, German writer and critic of the Third Reich.

[Ghost Dansing]

Nice Coltrane 12th

[the12thinfidel]

Miles and Miles to go, goes.....and Springstine isn't there yet, as they say,
So What?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4FAKRpUCYY

[Ghost Dansing]

I miss Mac...... he should post more. I actually miss Kenny and Alexandra too....... I even miss you when you don't post 12th, even though we seldom agree on anything.

Star Spangled Banner 

America is going to be America again soon....... 

[the12thinfidel]

Mac,
Chag Sameach, Wishing you a Happy Holiday

[Ghost Dansing]

Looks like it is all Jimmy Carter's risk.

[the12thinfidel]

"How do you change their minds" And there you have your liberal illusion, goesdan. Feelings over facts, form over substance, 'there's good in everybody', if we give them what they want...they'll see we mean them no harm and go away, etc etc. Meanwhile....

PA Representative in Lebanon: The PLO Proceeds Through Phases, Without Changing; "Once We Get Jerusalem, We Will Drive Jews Out of All of Palestine, Allah™ Willing."

"Palestinian Authority representative in Lebanon Abbas Zaki gave an interview to NBN TV on April 9, 2008. Zaki, aka Sharif Mash’al, is a former Palestinian Legislative Council member for Hebron, former Fatah operations head, and current PLO Central Council member. He headed the PLO Lebanon Committee and the Palestine National Liberation Army's political commissariat, and was an opponent of the Oslo Accords."

Fifty years of UN 'refugee camps' for the dregs of Arab 'society' and they still worship death and celebrate 'martyrdom'. Give them Gaza, and they tear down the modern farms and greenhouses they found there and dug tunnels to Egypt to smuggle guns and ammunition. Destroyed plumbing pipes to build rockets, 'demanded' world monetary and food donations for the Paleo 7th Century retards....

These are not sane humans that have a clue about cause and effect of their own actions. They are just as likely to take Jummy as a hostage as they are to play him for the usfull idiot he continues to be as he seeks to discover areas of flexibility on the part of the terrorist organization which exists to destroy Israel.